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WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT IS ABOLISHED?

Audie

Veteran Member
You are repeating yourself try reading what you are responding to. As posted earlier, the bible is not an ordinary book. According to the scriptures it is Gods Word and the way to salvation and eternal life and Gods forgiveness for our sins. You will never find the truth of Gods Word if you treat it like a book. You have to ask God to be your guide and teacher because we cannot understand these words if God is not our personal guide and teacher. See Isaiah 55:8-9 compare John 14:26 and John 16:13. We cannot see God in our sins and unbelief and neither can we know him this way. The same flood that destroyed our world of sin and unbelief the first time is also a lesson of how all those who continue in unbelief and known unrepentant sin will be destroyed once more at the second coming. According to the scriptures, It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (see Hebrews 10:26-31).
I repeated because you won't answer.

Its obvious that people " ask God for help" but
they get different answers.
So the advice is worthless.

And the more obvious because after claiming
you got it right, you go to talking about noah
and his big boat.

There was no boat or flood.
I ask about that absurd lie-
And
You just give me the same old boilerplate
preachin' chant i heard from the first christian
I encountered on the streets of Hong Kong.

Of what use is a book won't allow you to think?

I'd tell you how I know there was no flood but you
don't appear to have the capacity to understand
what I would tell you.

I'm not the one who needs but
refuses education.

And i dont chant if asked a legitimate question.
 

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
I repeated because you won't answer.

Its obvious that people " ask God for help" but
they get different answers.
So the advice is worthless.

And the more obvious because after claiming
you got it right, you go to talking about noah
and his big boat.

There was no boat or flood.
I ask about that absurd lie-
And
You just give me the same old boilerplate
preachin' chant i heard from the first christian
I encountered on the streets of Hong Kong.

Of what use is a book won't allow you to think?

I'd tell you how I know there was no flood but you
don't appear to have the capacity to understand
what I would tell you.

I'm not the one who needs but
refuses education.

And i dont chant if asked a legitimate question.
**mod edit** Me thinks you were indeed answered but did not like the answers given you because you choose your unbelief and sins more than God and His Word (see post # 1359 linked).
 
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3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
Doesn't that sound a bit drastic to you? I mean he was just picking up sticks
No not at all. Openly and publicly breaking anyone of Gods commandments as an act of defiance and rebellion against God and His Word is viewed as sin in Gods eyes and the wages of sin is still death in the new covenant (Romans 6:23) for those who do not seek God in repentance and confession of their sins (see Hebrews 10:26-39). God is a God of great love, mercy and grace to those who believe and obey His Word according to the scriptures but is also a God of justice and judgement who will in no wise clear the guilty (Exodus 34:7).
 

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
Funny guy, can't answer so you attack me.

Class act that.
It is not attacking you by telling you the truth and sharing the scriptures with you. So stop playing the pretend martyr. I believe that I have answered you with the scriptures shared with you in previous posts. You just did not like the answer provided to you because it was based on the scriptures and you do not believe them. (proof? see post # 1359 linked). This is a scripture discussion forum by the way are you in the right place?
 
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3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
He probably can't admit to himself that no such verse exists.
Yet I posted scriptures showing that there scripture is the only way to know God and its his Word. There is no scripture saying we are saved by Gods Word and something else. If you believe there is post it which is what your friend is trying to argue here. I am just amazed that people only see what they want to see here while choosing not to believe what the scriptures say in a scripture discussion section of the forum. Bring up scripture most people want to talk about anything else. Our opinions do not mean much in Gods eye. Only Gods Words are true and we should believe and follow them (Romans 3:4; John 17:17; Matthew 4:4).
 
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Soandso

ᛋᛏᚨᚾᛞ ᛋᚢᚱᛖ
It would not be from God if God told me to murder someone. God tells me not to murder anyone see Exodus 20:13

But he commanded the death of the man who picked up sticks, no? Also, he commanded Abraham to kill his own son and only stopped him when he was absolutely sure he was going to do it. It seems he commands people to kill for him often enough, so that's not outside of his character

But in this hypothetical let's say he commands you to kill your neighbor and you are absolutely certain it is god. Do you do it?
 

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
But he commanded the death of the man who picked up sticks, no? Also, he commanded Abraham to kill his own son and only stopped him when he was absolutely sure he was going to do it. It seems he commands people to kill for him often enough, so that's not outside of his character But in this hypothetical let's say he commands you to kill your neighbor and you are absolutely certain it is god. Do you do it?
No God commanded the death of a man that was caught in open rebellion breaking Gods commandments and openly sinning against God for all to see. The wages of sin is death for all those who continue in known unrepentant sin and do not repent of theirs sins and confess them before God seeking His forgiveness of sins so not much has changed here only execution is different in the new covenant for those who do not seek God in repentance and forgiveness of sin. . Your hypothetical goes against the commandments of God where God tells us not to murder and is not applicable to the new covenant. So I would know right away it is not God talking to me and that hypothetical is not biblical.
 
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McBell

Unbound
Well aren't you the funny one. That is not true whatsoever and is bearing false witness on your side. You are deflecting again because you are unable to answer the questions I have asked you based on the scriptures you do not believe. (proof already provided with full conversation for all to see in post # 1347 linked)
A question you asked INSTEAD OF providing the scripture that states scripture only.

I sincerely hope you do not for a second think I have forgotten...
Or that your blatantly sad attempt at distraction worked.

So, where are the scriptures that state scripture only?

You do remember that question being asked, right?

In case you forgot, it is the question you have been trying real hard to avoid.
 

McBell

Unbound
see last post... above this one. There is no salvation outside of faith in Gods Word. That is why you cannot answer the question asked of you based on the scriptures I provided. That answers your questions. The bible does not teach faith in Gods Word and something else to receive Gods forgiveness of sins and everlasting life. If you disagree please post your scripture proofs and answer the questions based on the scriptures already asked of you that you refuse to answer. If you cannot why not receive Gods Words and be blessed? Ignoring them do not make them disappear.
Again, a nice sermon on faith those verses.

So where are the verses that state scripture only?
 

McBell

Unbound
Its just amusing that people only see what they want to see here while choosing not to believe what the scriptures say.
Wait...
Are you now claiming that you can give us the power to understand even though God Himself has already denied us said power?
Was it not you claiming that we can not understand until God allows it?
 

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
A question you asked INSTEAD OF providing the scripture that states scripture only.

I sincerely hope you do not for a second think I have forgotten...
Or that your blatantly sad attempt at distraction worked.

So, where are the scriptures that state scripture only?

You do remember that question being asked, right?

In case you forgot, it is the question you have been trying real hard to avoid.

Sorry I do not believe you. I posted what is written in the scriptures and provided the scripture references and simply asked you a question based on those scriptures that prove that there is no salvation for anyone outside of faith in Gods Word. Here let me ask you again because I know you cannot answer this question which is why I have asked you many times without you even attempting to answer my questions to you. If the scriptures teach us in Ephesians 2:8 that we are saved by Gods grace THROUGH FAITH and that this faith comes by hearing and hearing by THE WORD OF GOD in Romans 10:17. Tell me friend how can you have Gods salvation in your life if you do not believe and obey what Gods Word says? There is no salvation outside of FAITH in Gods Words according to John 3:36. You might want to re-consider what you believe.
 
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3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
Wait...
Are you now claiming that you can give us the power to understand even though God Himself has already denied us said power?
Was it not you claiming that we can not understand until God allows it?
No. God has not denied us His power to understand His Word. see John 14:26 and John 16:13. It seems you do not know Gods Word or the scriptures do you.
 
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Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
God has not denied us His power to understand His Word. see John 14:26 and John 16:13. You do not know Gods Word or the scriptures now do you.
How does what another person knows or doesn't provide the answer to a question that you seem to be going out of your way to avoid?
 

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
How does what another person knows or doesn't provide the answer to a question that you seem to be going out of your way to avoid?
It is not avoiding anything by answering questions with scripture or asking questions based on the scriptures to help others to understand that their reasoning might be in error and in disagreement with scripture. This is a scripture discussion forum. Do you want to discuss scripture or have a go at addressing the OP?
 
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McBell

Unbound
Sorry I do not believe you. I posted what is written in the scriptures and provided the scripture references and simply asked you a question based on those scriptures that prove that there is no salvation for anyone outside of faith in Gods Word. Here let me ask you again because I know you cannot answer this question which is why I have asked you many times without you even attempting to answer my questions to you. If the scriptures teach us in Ephesians 2:8 that we are saved by Gods grace THROUGH FAITH and that this faith comes by hearing and hearing by THE WORD OF GOD in Romans 10:17. Tell me friend how can you have Gods salvation in your life if you do not believe and obey what Gods Word says? There is no salvation outside of FAITH in Gods Words according to John 3:36. You might want to re-consider what you believe.
Again with the sermon on faith instead of the verses that state scripture only.
 
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