3rdAngel
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God does give understanding. Nothing is impossible for God right?
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WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT IS ABOLISHED?
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McBell
Unbound
You are adding to the scripture when you claim scripture only because nowhere in the scripture does it state scripture only.
3rdAngel
Well-Known Member
Nope that is not true at all. I posted what is written in the scriptures and provided the scripture references and simply asked you a question based on those scriptures. Here let me ask you again because I know you cannot answer this question. If the scriptures teach us in Ephesians 2:8 that we are saved by Gods grace THROUGH FAITH and that this faith comes by hearing and hearing by THE WORD OF GOD in Romans 10:17. Tell me friend how can you have Gods salvation in your life if you do not believe and obey what Gods Word says? There is no salvation outside of FAITH in Gods Words according to John 3:36. You might want to re-consider what you believe.
McBell
Unbound
You flat out told @IndigoChild5559 "You cannot see this because you reject Jesus as your Messiah. So Gods Word is hidden from you because of your unbelief".
What is it you think you are doing if God himself is preventing them from understanding that which you are saying?
Perhaps you think you outrank God?
McBell
Unbound
Then present the scripture that states scripture only.
It is not that difficult a request.
Either it exists or it does not.
Thus far all you have presented is bad apologetics.
Here you are trying real hard to distract from the fact that you have not presented any scripture that states scripture only.
Where is the scripture that states scripture only?
3rdAngel
Well-Known Member
Indeed that is what the scripture says not me.. see John 3:36; John 8:24; Hosea 9:17; Isaiah 6:9-10. Someone who does not accept Jesus as Gods promised Messiah will also not believe the new covenant scriptures are scripture.
3rdAngel
Well-Known Member
The scripture do not teach anywhere we are saved by Gods Word and something else. We are only saved by Gods grace that we receive through believing and obeying what Gods Word says as shown in my first response to you.
I then asked you a question based on the scriptures to help you to think about what you are saying that you choose to ignore here...
Your response here..
There is no salvation outside of faith in Gods Word. That is why you cannot answer the question asked of you based on the scriptures I provided. That answers your questions (see scriptures above that prove this).
No bad apologetics is what you are doing. You are deflecting. That is why you are unable to answer the questions asked of you based on scripture and denying the scriptures you asked for with your words that are not Gods Word.
Nope. I am only asking you a questions based on scripture you deny. You are unable to answer those questions now are you. Does this not concern you? It should. Read John 3:36.
Take Care.
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Audie
Veteran Member
Of what use is a book that each reads only to find
different " messages'?
I've read the book. It's ok in places but mostly
boring.
We've our own culture and values, this " bible" has
nothing to offer.
3rdAngel
Well-Known Member
The bible is not an ordinary book. According to the scriptures it is Gods Word and the way to salvation and eternal life and Gods forgiveness for our sins. You will never find the truth of Gods Word if you treat it like a book. You have to ask God to be your guide and teacher because we cannot understand these words if God is not our personal guide and teacher. See Isaiah 55:8-9 compare John 14:26 and John 16:13. We cannot see God in our sins and unbelief and neither can we know him this way.
3rdAngel
Well-Known Member
Yea the same flood that destroyed our world of sin and unbelief the first time is also a lesson of how all those who continue in unbelief and known unrepentant sin will be destroyed once more at the second coming. According to the scriptures, It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (see Hebrews 10:26-31).
McBell
Unbound
So what is it you are doing?
For some reason you seem incapable of providing answers for direct questions....
John D. Brey
Well-Known Member
. . . May I ask what planet you're messaging us from? On our planet there's not a single culture that hasn't either evolved from the principles found in the Bible, or that doesn't on some level contain similar messages. The reigning cultural phenomenon on our planet, circumscribed within so-called Western Civilization, is drenched with, baptized in, the language and thought of the Bible, such that someone who lives in Western Civilization and makes the statement you make would be like a fish who says he doesn't need no stinking water no matter what it is.
John
McBell
Unbound
All of that to avoid presenting the scripture that states scripture only?
3rdAngel
Well-Known Member
Well aren't you the funny one. That is not true whatsoever and is bearing false witness on your side. You are deflecting again because you are unable to answer the questions I have asked you based on the scriptures you do not believe. (proof already provided with full conversation for all to see in post # 1347 linked)
3rdAngel
Well-Known Member
see last post... above this one. There is no salvation outside of faith in Gods Word. That is why you cannot answer the question asked of you based on the scriptures I provided. That answers your questions. The bible does not teach faith in Gods Word and something else to receive Gods forgiveness of sins and everlasting life. If you disagree please post your scripture proofs and answer the questions based on the scriptures already asked of you that you refuse to answer. If you cannot why not receive Gods Words and be blessed? Ignoring them do not make them disappear.
Soandso
ᛋᛏᚨᚾᛞ ᛋᚢᚱᛖ
Hey, remember when god commanded that a guy get stoned to death for picking up sticks on the Sabbath day?
32 Now while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. 33 And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. 34 They put him under guard, because it had not been explained what should be done to him.
35 Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” 36 So, as the Lord commanded Moses, all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died.
Numbers 15:32-36
Seems like God takes the whole honoring the Sabbath day thing pretty seriously
32 Now while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. 33 And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. 34 They put him under guard, because it had not been explained what should be done to him.
35 Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” 36 So, as the Lord commanded Moses, all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died.
Numbers 15:32-36
Seems like God takes the whole honoring the Sabbath day thing pretty seriously
Audie
Veteran Member
The book tells you to believe the book.
Who thinks that's evidence for anything?
And it's supposed to be believed on faith since
nothing can be verified. Not even Pi=3
I asked what the use if it when nobody knows what it means.
Each says " lo here!" And, " lo thrre" , each that
God gave them the " truth ".
Its ridiculous.
Everybody has their own version-the one true
truth. All different. Wny?
You had no answer.
Again, I ask of what use is a book that gives each a different answer?
And to that i also ask, of what value is a book that
leads you to believe such an outlandishly absurd
story as " flood"?
There's not a word of truth in it.
And once someone lies to me, they're gone.
3rdAngel
Well-Known Member
Yep the same penalty of death was given not for just the Sabbath but for openly and publicly breaking anyone of Gods 10 commandments. The wages of sin is still death in the new covenant scriptures. The only difference now God says vengeance is mine and it will be delivered at the 2nd coming.
3rdAngel
Well-Known Member
As posted earlier, the bible is not an ordinary book. According to the scriptures it is Gods Word and the way to salvation and eternal life and Gods forgiveness for our sins. You will never find the truth of Gods Word if you treat it like a book. You have to ask God to be your guide and teacher because we cannot understand these words if God is not our personal guide and teacher. See Isaiah 55:8-9 compare John 14:26 and John 16:13. We cannot see God in our sins and unbelief and neither can we know him this way. The same flood that destroyed our world of sin and unbelief the first time is also a lesson of how all those who continue in unbelief and known unrepentant sin will be destroyed once more at the second coming. According to the scriptures, It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (see Hebrews 10:26-31). I have no doubt that God is real as I have personally met him. You on the other hand if you are being honest with yourself cannot prove God does not exist.The book tells you to believe the book.
Who thinks that's evidence for anything?
And it's supposed to be believed on faith since
nothing can be verified. Not even Pi=3
I asked what the use if it when nobody knows what it means. Each says " lo here!" And, " lo thrre" each that God gave them the " truth ". Except for the ones who say god isnt the teacher. Its ridiculous. Everybody has their own version-the one true truth. All different.
You had no answer.
Again, I ask of what use is a book that gives each a different answer?
And to that i also ask, of what value is a book that
leads you to believe such an outlandishly absurd
story as " flood"?
There's not a word of truth in it.
And once someone lies to me, they're gone.
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Soandso
ᛋᛏᚨᚾᛞ ᛋᚢᚱᛖ
Doesn't that sound a bit drastic to you? I mean he was just picking up sticks