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Which evolved first --- FRUIT BEARING TREES or FRUIT EATING CREATURES?

Sapiens

Polymathematician
Thank you for answering the question.

We understand that Nitrogen came to earth by the heavy bombardment of Earth by huge asteroids.

Do you think it was due to chance and coincidence or it was guided and directed ?

The 2nd element is Oxygen which was produced by the photosynthesizing cyanobacteria, it happened that the bacteria convert the energy from the sun to Oxygen.

Do you think it was due to chance and coincidence or it was guided and directed ?

Please clarify on what you base your answer, is it on faith or on science & logic.
I find that you beg the question with amazing simple-mindedness.

I would say guided and directed by natural processes.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
I find that you beg the question with amazing simple-mindedness.

I would say guided and directed by natural processes.

My questions are simple please answer plainly.

Do you think the heavy bombardment of Earth by huge asteroids was by an accident or planned.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
My questions are simple please answer plainly.

Do you think the heavy bombardment of Earth by huge asteroids was by an accident or planned.

Accidental implies that somebody did it inadvertently.

It just happened.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Do you believe it was accidental ?

Defined as - happening by chance, unintentionally, or unexpectedly.

No, I don't think this is an accurate term. The fall of asteroids onto the Earth was the result of previous events which had occurred during the Solar System's formation.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Defined as - happening by chance, unintentionally, or unexpectedly.

No, I don't think this is an accurate term. The fall of asteroids onto the Earth was the result of previous events which had occurred during the Solar System's formation.

So was it by accident or planned ?
 

Kuzcotopia

If you can read this, you are as lucky as I am.
Fruit eating animals were first. But they were not exclusively fruit eating. They were plant eating. Over time the plants that were being eaten had developed juicier and better parts around their seed and the earliest forms of "fruit" began.

This exactly.

Evolution is natural selection. Trees that developed fruits became more successful than those who did not. Simple.

By the way, do you realize that all seedless oranges in the world are linked to a single mutant tree from Brazil?

The seedless orange is an example of animals (humans) finding a mutant trait desirable, propagating new plants all over the world who would otherwise be unable to reproduce.

Without an animal who wanted to eat exclusively those kinds of oranges, the plant would have lived its lifespan, incapable of reproduction, and subject to extinction.

Most mutations like that are not desirable, but the ones that do produce an advantage to spread quite quickly.
 

Sapiens

Polymathematician
My questions are simple please answer plainly.

Do you think the heavy bombardment of Earth by huge asteroids was by an accident or planned.
Again, you beg the question and ask for an answer as simple minded as your question. I'd say neither.
 

shawn001

Well-Known Member
Which was first, human or the air ?
Did you see how stupid it is and even the ones who may entertain such kind of fooling questions ?

The air by far, since evolution created the oxygen. Human's have only been on the Earth for a very short time period in Earth's history.


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  • Posted 04.17.07
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Archaefructus liaoningensis would never have made the cover of Better Homes & Gardens. But this 125 million-year-old plant, discovered in fossil beds in northeastern China, did grace the cover of Science. It’s heralded as the earliest known angiosperm, or flowering plant. Here, explore what makes Archaefructus a flowering plant and how it compares to blooming beauties of today.



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  • Posted 02.01.02
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It's hard to wrap your mind around the concept of 4.5 billion years. For many of us, the Pyramids–built 4,500 years ago, a millionth of that time span–symbolize the distant past. The geological time scale helps us grapple with the vast swaths of time that life has existed on Earth, dividing it into eras, periods, and epochs. With our illustrated version, explore 4.5 billion years of life in just a few minutes.



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shawn001

Well-Known Member
luna40_01.jpg
 

shawn001

Well-Known Member
"Furthermore, all lunar rocks (Apollo, Luna and meteorites) have a significant amount of microscopic craters (<1mm) which they received on the surface of the Moon. This is because of the millions of micrometeorites that hit the Moon each day. That’s right ‘baby’ meteorites.

A micrometeorite we brought back from the moon with an impact crater in it.


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Microscopic picture of a micrometeorite impact on a small grain (Credit NASA)

Did we really land on the Moon? What the rocks tell us… | Earth & Solar System
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Again, you beg the question and ask for an answer as simple minded as your question. I'd say neither.

That was stupidly said ....., you're dodging.
You don't even dare to stay "i don't know who did it",eeeh

Another silly question of mine

Where did the photosynthesizing cyanobacteria come from ? was it planned or just
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then it's the photosynthesizing cyanobacteria.
When you reply then you have to explain on what you base your answer,on science or stupidity.

Sorry, when i see stupid things around done by the ........ then i have to be rude.
 

Sapiens

Polymathematician
Once again you beg the question, it gets real boring, neither of the alternatives you propose are real, if you want to know what is, I recommend a three credit course at a major research university . You are not important enough to me to hold your hand trough the process, I'm not willing to waste much more time over someone who does not understand what "begging the question" is and who is clearly not interested enough to find out. As far as I can tell your sole interest here is to try and force people who know better to chose between two alternatives that are either the only alternatives that you are wise enough to see or to play a stupid game of "gotcha" by forcing what is know to be an incorrect response. Play this game with young adolescents who can't read at grade level ... you'll find that much more fulfilling.
 

McBell

Unbound
Sorry, when i see stupid things around done by the ........ then i have to be rude.
Bold faced lie, blatant denial, or over abundance of ignorance?
Now perhaps if you had worded it:
when i see stupid things around, that are not my own, done by the ........ then i have to be rude.​
 

NoX

Active Member
Did the fruit bearing trees evolve first or did the creatures who ate those fruits evolve first? And just how did the trees LEARN that they had to produce fruits so that creatures ate them and thus their seeds were spread far and wide to produce more trees?

LoL, nice question :blush: If I was an atheist, I would say the creatures who eats the fruits were eating somethings another before the fruit trees. They started to eat fruits in time. :smile: What would be your answer ?
 
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