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Which of these are acceptable?
- Thread starter Smoke
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Smoke
Done here.
Are you suggesting that all the people in these photos look like an intolerant genocidal bunch?
xkatz
Well-Known Member
Choice "C" is definitely the epitome of intolerance.
bowingtoGod
Member
I like C the best. 
Smoke
Done here.
Okay, this just kinda laid there. I was hoping to get people to talk about what kinds of face coverings are acceptable in public and what kinds aren't, and why.
I said they were all acceptable, by which I mean generally acceptable. That doesn't mean you should have a right to enter a bank or a government building, or any private property, with your face covered, but in general, just walking down the sidewalk, why shouldn't you wear what you want?
I said they were all acceptable, by which I mean generally acceptable. That doesn't mean you should have a right to enter a bank or a government building, or any private property, with your face covered, but in general, just walking down the sidewalk, why shouldn't you wear what you want?
I answered that all but "F" are acceptable.
In all of the cases, the mask is meant to conceal the wearer's identity, but in the case "F", the mask is also meant to intimidate.
I think the word "acceptable" allows for some grey area. In my case, I took it to mean that a person in public shouldn't be prohibited from wearing the thing. On a personal level, I'd have issues with several of the choices (in some cases, major issues), but I wouldn't want to actually enforce this on anyone.
BTW - there's one form of mask you didn't mention that's become acceptable here to the point of being commonplace: surgical-style masks in public places like subways. At least in Toronto, plenty of people wear them either because they're sick and they don't want to pass it to other people, or they're healthy and worried of catching something themselves. When the trend first came here (I think mainly from China), it would get odd looks, but now people don't take much notice of it at all.
In all of the cases, the mask is meant to conceal the wearer's identity, but in the case "F", the mask is also meant to intimidate.
I think the word "acceptable" allows for some grey area. In my case, I took it to mean that a person in public shouldn't be prohibited from wearing the thing. On a personal level, I'd have issues with several of the choices (in some cases, major issues), but I wouldn't want to actually enforce this on anyone.
BTW - there's one form of mask you didn't mention that's become acceptable here to the point of being commonplace: surgical-style masks in public places like subways. At least in Toronto, plenty of people wear them either because they're sick and they don't want to pass it to other people, or they're healthy and worried of catching something themselves. When the trend first came here (I think mainly from China), it would get odd looks, but now people don't take much notice of it at all.
Smoke
Done here.
I think several of them could conceivably be worn with the intent to intimidate, but I prefer not to get into mind-reading. I think what you're doing while wearing a mask is much more significant than the fact that you're wearing it.
My point is that a Klan mask itself is an instrument of intimidation. There's no mind-reading involved. It's the symbol of a violent criminal organization; its use necessarily elicits the threat of violent crime, IMO.
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
If it is to hide your face in day to day or criminal activities any of them should be banned.
If they are part of an organised festival or masquerade no problem.
If they are part of an organised festival or masquerade no problem.
It is, of course, very much a cultural matter.
Some of those are fairly universally well-tolerated, e.g. the carnival mask.
The point of the Lone Ranger mask, IIRC, was originally that he looked like a bandit of some kind. Use and "folklore" (recreational industry, actually) changed that.
The Burka and to a lesser degree the Klan Hood are far more controversial; some people see them as aggressive and disrespectful, but that is not necessarily the intent.
The gas mask is technically acceptable, but certain to worry most people. After all, there is no point to wearing one unless something nasty is expected.
Some of those are fairly universally well-tolerated, e.g. the carnival mask.
The point of the Lone Ranger mask, IIRC, was originally that he looked like a bandit of some kind. Use and "folklore" (recreational industry, actually) changed that.
The Burka and to a lesser degree the Klan Hood are far more controversial; some people see them as aggressive and disrespectful, but that is not necessarily the intent.
The gas mask is technically acceptable, but certain to worry most people. After all, there is no point to wearing one unless something nasty is expected.
To a lesser degree? I think you need to read some of the history of the Klan. It's very much the intent.
McBell
Unbound
They all are.Which of the following are acceptable to wear in public in Western society?
Which are not?
Why?
A.
B.
C.
D.
E.
F.
G.
the more i think about it, the more i agree with this. the intent of the klansmen is quite obvious; the rest aren't quite as clear. we all know the burqa is religiously driven (whether it's "required" or not)...
the surgical mask doesn't cover the entire face though, so that may be why it's not picutred.
