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Which political party actually acts like Nazis? Trump Jr says it's the Democrats.

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Again, do you have any evidence that the KKK currently support the Democratic party? A former member of the KKK being a member (who was subsequently honored by the NAACP for contributions to civil rights: NAACP Mourns the Passing of U.S. Senator Robert Byrd | Press Room | NAACP) does not mean anything with regards to current support by the organization for the party itself.

You mean the NAACP the awarded President Trump its Ellis Island Medal of Honor in 1986?

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suncowiam

Well-Known Member
Yes, and plenty.

“At the time of Ulysses S. Grant's election to the presidency, white supremacists were conducting a reign of terror throughout the South. In outright defiance of the Republican-led federal government, Southern Democrats formed organizations that violently intimidated blacks and Republicans who tried to win political power.

The most prominent of these, the Ku Klux Klan, was formed in Pulaski, Tennessee, in 1865. Originally founded as a social club for former Confederate soldiers, the Klan evolved into a terrorist organization. It would be responsible for thousands of deaths, and would help to weaken the political power of Southern blacks and Republicans.” -the American Experience, PBS
Grant, Reconstruction and the KKK | American Experience | PBS

Do you want a partial list of Democrats that were members of the KKK?
Here you go:

Edward Douglass White, a Democrat and the Chief Justice of the United States, was a known member of the KKK in his home state of Louisiana, where he had served a U.S. Senator.

Hugo Black. In 1921, he successfully defended E. R. Stephenson in his trial for the murder of a Catholic priest, Fr. James E. Coyle. Black, a Democrat, joined the Ku Klux Klan shortly afterwards, in order to gain votes from the anti-Catholic element in Alabama. He built his winning Senate campaign around multiple appearances at KKK meetings across Alabama. News of his membership was a secret until shortly after he was confirmed as an Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court.

Theodore G. Bilbo, a Democrat, the Governor of Mississippi and later the U.S. Senator for Mississippi, was a founder of the Mississippi chapter of the KKK.

John Brown Gordon, a Democrat and the U.S. Senator for Georgia, was a founder of the KKK in his home state of Georgia.

Elmer David Davies, a Democrat and a Federal Judge of the United States District Court for the Middle District of Tennessee, was a member of the KKK whilst at university.

Bibb Graves, a Democrat, who was the Governor of Alabama. He lost his first campaign for governor in 1922, but four years later, with the secret endorsement of the Ku Klux Klan, he was elected to his first term as governor. Graves was almost certainly the Exalted Cyclops(chapter president) of the Montgomery chapter of the Klan. Graves, like Hugo Black, used the strength of the Klan to further his electoral prospects.

I could cite many more.

Yes, the Democrats have a history of being the party of the KKK.

Ok. I get your assertion.

The context is with current politics. Can you now demonstrate the history of the democrats to now concerning KKK and racist ideologies?

The technical question I should have asked is who does the KKK and Neo Nazi groups support NOW?
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
Let me explain how logic works for a some on the left here.....
1) They find a fact they like, eg, some Nazi agrees with Trump about something.
2) They feel that Trump is a Nazi or at least a sympathizer.
3) This fact comports with that feeling.
4) They claim this proves Trump sides with Nazis.
5) They give their equivalent of "quod erat demonstrandum"
by picking 1 from column A, & 1 from column B.....
Column A:
We have the facts!
Reality has a liberal bias!
False equivalency!
Column B:
tRump is an idiot traitor!
tRrump is a pedophile!
tRrump bought Melanie, who was a prostitute!

Just kidding!
(Sort of)

Column B Trump I never said he was a child molester where did you get that from? Do you really believe Melanie married Trump for anything but his money all be it shes probably not a prostitute...............yea right
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
How many disgusting unattractive looking 70 year old ugly old men do you know who are blue collar and make 40 thousand a year have hot young fashion and nude Models married to them? None 0
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Are you going to answer the question or keep distracting?

Again, do you have any evidence that the KKK currently support the Democratic party?
No need to shout. Sheesh, so sorry I can’t respond on your schedule, but I have this thing I call “a life”.

According to the Anti-Defamation League the number of actual members in the KKK today is quite small. They estimate there are about 3,000 nationwide organized in disjointed chapters. So there isn’t really a central KKK that goes around officially supporting anybody these days. But the record clearly shows that historically the KKK supported the Democrats. As a Jew, the klan hasn’t been too keen on letting me know their inner works. :rolleyes: What did they tell you when you went to your last klan rally?;)
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
Let me explain how logic works for a some on the left here.....
1) They find a fact they like, eg, some Nazi agrees with Trump about something.
2) They feel that Trump is a Nazi or at least a sympathizer.
3) This fact comports with that feeling.
4) They claim this proves Trump sides with Nazis.
5) They give their equivalent of "quod erat demonstrandum"
by picking 1 from column A, & 1 from column B.....
Column A:
We have the facts!
Reality has a liberal bias!
False equivalency!
Column B:
tRump is an idiot traitor!
tRrump is a pedophile!
tRrump bought Melanie, who was a prostitute!

Just kidding!
(Sort of)
Funny this whole thread (and the point of the OP) is about those on the right trying to paint Democrats as Nazi’s because Antifa is violent.
 
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Riders

Well-Known Member
No need to shout. Sheesh, so sorry I can’t respond on your schedule, but I have this thing I call “a life”.

According to the Anti-Defamation League the number of actual members in the KKK today is quite small. They estimate there are about 3,000 nationwide organized in disjointed chapters. So there isn’t really a central KKK that goes around officially supporting anybody these days. But the record clearly shows that historically the KKK supported the Democrats. As a Jew, the klan hasn’t been too keen on letting me know their inner works. :rolleyes: What did they tell you when you went to your last klan rally?;)

Some of the may have supported Dems in the past because Democrats believe in freedom of speech for everyone including haters.

But today mostly they support Trump.

I live in Mesquite Tx growing up it was a white racist town. When I was 18 the KKKs had a big rally in Mesquite. They stood outside of grocery stores Walmart's handing out their stink literature. Me and my parents tried to stay home that week.

We did go out once and I saw them they were standing out here in their white sheets and all, one of them tried to hand me something when I walked out to the car, I just ignored it.

CREEPY creeps me out to this day.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Column B Trump I never said he was a child molester where did you get that from?
The pedo charge was made by other people.
Do you really believe Melanie married Trump for anything but his money all be it shes probably not a prostitute...............yea right
Without info to the contrary, I assume marriages to be about love.
Many marriages involve spouses I wouldn't touch with a 10' pole.
But to each his (or her) own.
People wonder how Mrs Revolt has put up with me for 38 years.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Funny this whole thread (and the point of the OP) is about those on the right trying to paint Democrats as Nazi’s because Antifa is violent.
Even I don't think Democrats are Nazis.
People just have different visions of progress.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
The pedo charge was made by other people.

Without info to the contrary, I assume marriages to be about love.
Many marriages involve spouses I wouldn't touch with a 10' pole.
But to each his (or her) own.
People wonder how Mrs Revolt has put up with me for 38 years.


I would believe that if this was an ordinary rich guy. Donald Trump is a billionaire. In the tape with him on the bus talking to whats his name before he met the tv show host who came up and kissed him He said to that guy and I qout Because of my money I can walk up to any woman and have sex with whomever I want. he actually said right there he paid for sex.

Donald Trump has already admitted he pays for sex. He also has paid off several women admittedly to not talk about his sex life.

He is also and was also involved with the Manhattan Madame, and thats all coming out in court too.

So we are talking about a man who has admittedly paid for sex quite abut.

So actually seeing that we have his own words saying he pays for sex, I think evidence is on my side.

Any other rich guy and I would agree with you.
 
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fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
I would believe that if this was an ordinary rich guy. Donald Trump is a billionaire. In the tape with him on the bus talking to whats his name before he met the tv show host who came up and kissed him He said to that guy and I qout Because of my money I can walk up to any woman and have sex with whomever I want. he actually said right there he paid for sex.

Donald Trump has already admitted he pays for sex. He also has paid off several women admittedly to not talk about his sex life.

He is also and was also involved with the Manhattan Madame, and thats all coming out in court too.

So we are talking about a man who has admittedly paid for sex quite abut.

So actually seeing that we have his own words saying he pays for sex, I think evidence is on my side.

Any other rich guy and I would agree with you.
Ok, I missed this last time around.

Riders, please leave Melania alone, this is garbage. I don’t know what kind of relationship Donny and Melanie have, and I don’t care. You are lowering the level of discourse when you attack them in such a personal way. It is none of our business. And it makes what is very legitimate opposition to Trump seem petty. It accomplishes nothing.

Just stop it. Please.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
Even I don't think Democrats are Nazis.
People just have different visions of progress.
Go see the movie, I hear people are standing up and saying the pledge of allegiance in the theatre when it ends! lmao.

Can you guess the propaganda technique Dinesh is using....again.?

Propaganda is about controlling what people think. The truth is, you cannot just tell people what they are suppose to think. You have to give them a justifiable reason to think what you want them to think. The easiest way to do that is to confirm their preexisting biases. And yes, EVERYONE has preexisting biases.

Propaganda 101: Part 2; Rewriting History.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
Ok, I missed this last time around.

Riders, please leave Melania alone, this is garbage. I don’t know what kind of relationship Donny and Melanie have, and I don’t care. You are lowering the level of discourse when you attack them in such a personal way. It is none of our business. And it makes what is very legitimate opposition to Trump seem petty. It accomplishes nothing.

Just stop it. Please.


I don't care what you think about me talking about it. I will leave Melania out of it just for you. But not his personal life, not impressed. The guy has had too many affairs too many prostitutes, its amoral, and I believe his private life if he is amoral that way does affect him doing his job.

Id like to have an upstanding moral person in our office, I'm sorry if that bothers you, I don't want someone who has 500 prostitutes if that offends too bad.
 
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