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Which religion offers the right path to God?

nameless

The Creator
This faith inspired connection would only be elevated to proportions unimaginable when the believer would be allowed to reside in and alongside Allah.

how long to sit alongside god? endlessly? :facepalm: would be so boring....
 
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Muffled

Jesus in me
how long to sit alongside god? endlessly? :facepalm: would be so boring....

Actually I find life in general to be pretty boring but walking with God to be very exciting.

As for the OP IMO any path that gets a person to God is a good path. However just getting there doesn't automatically solve all problems. After all the Devil has access to God also but it doesn't do him any good.
 

nameless

The Creator
Muslims live in accordance to the teaching of Islam. I find that we live our lives on Earth, ideally, as spiritually as possible. This doesn't change when we enter Heaven.


muslims say they get reward for worshiping allah only after they reach paradise and not while we live here.
 
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Gharib

I want Khilafah back
muslims say they get reward for worshiping allah only after they reach paradise and not while we live here.

the quran says differently. there is reward and there is punishment also in his world. you have been missinformed.
 

nameless

The Creator
the quran says differently. there is reward and there is punishment also in his world. you have been missinformed.

you did not corrected your friend when he stated that one should wait till death to recieve reward from allah. That made me think in that way.
Ok now tell me what sort of reward allah would give while we are in earth.
And if punishment is also in this world, then why hell is created?
 
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Gharib

I want Khilafah back
you did not corrected your friend when he stated that one should wait till death to recieve reward from allah. That made me think in that way.

which friend?

Ok now tell me what sort of reward allah would give while we are in earth.

lets see if the following makes sense.
for a muslim the wealth Allah has given him would be a reward for him if he handled it in the way islam says so (ie, give the zakat (tax to the poor), give sadaqah (charity) to a needy person etc.) the wealth would not only be beneficent for him in this world but also in the hearafter if he did spend it in the way of Allah.

And if punishment is also in this world, then why hell is created?

the punishment and reward of this life is all a test. Allah gives wealth to someone to test him if he will spend it in the proper way. Allah may also test someone with the death of a family member, of their wealth (take it away), of their food etc. now when one of the 3 previously mentioned (death, wealth and food) occurs to someone they say it is a punishment from Allah. but no one knows that appart from Allah. in such times a person is soposed to be patient. Allah says "Allah is with the patient ones" and he also says " after every hardship comes relief, Verily after every hardship comes relief" (94:5-6)

a muslim who has a very strong faith gets tested much more than the rest. so every prophet was tested the most out of all the people.

so hell is crated to punish those who failed the tests in this life. the tests that some people view as reward and some view as punishment.
 
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Gharib

I want Khilafah back
I agree. However, just about the exact same thing can be said by a Christian about Jesus and Christianity. Same 'we're good and you're evil' stand. So on we go, without peace in the world.

thats not why there is no peace. well it was the christians that started everything. if it hadn't been for the crusades, there would have been much peace on earth. but it's not because they say their religion if better and yours is not. if you dissagre then dissprove their claims in a civilised maner.
 

nameless

The Creator
for a muslim the wealth Allah has given him would be a reward for him if he handled it in the way islam says so (ie, give the zakat (tax to the poor), give sadaqah (charity) to a needy person etc.) the wealth would not only be beneficent for him in this world but also in the hearafter if he did spend it in the way of Allah.

so for a muslim reward from allah is money, and when people reach paradise, allah would reward them with a lot of money, oh great !!! god is so kind, i actually did not expected this much from quran.

which friend?
jamal
 
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nameless

The Creator
the punishment and reward of this life is all a test.

nice to see reward is given before the test.

the punishment and reward of this life is all a test. Allah may also test someone with the death of a family member, in such times a person is soposed to be patient. Allah says "Allah is with the patient ones".

So hard is allah's test and sad to see allah taking life of innocent family members to test our patience.
 
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arimoff

Active Member
Mr K.Venugopal and myself are having a discussion about which religion has the right path to God and what is it about that particular religion that makes it true or sets it appart from the rest. (i think thats what we are discussing :eek:)

so anyways we started the discussion in another thread and was hopping if a staff member could bring our old posts here just so everyone gets a picture of whats going on. i will post the link to the other thread here in a short moment

one thing i would appreciate from other members who intend to post here, is to please keep it civilised. i'm sure K.Venugopal would appreciate that as much as me.

and i believe it was my turn to answer.

the link to the other thread is: peace b upon u :) and the posts are #5,9,25,26. thanks to whoever will copy them here


My guess is Judaism, since it is the parent religion of Islam and Christianity. If either of them "is" the right path then Judaism is even more so.

Esalam I'm waiting for you to jump on what I said, go ahead say Adam and everybody else were Muslim, even though you don't realize that you prove my words.

a little example:
Originally Posted by eselam
for a muslim the wealth Allah has given him would be a reward for him if he handled it in the way islam says so (ie, give the zakat (tax to the poor), give sadaqah (charity) to a needy person etc.) the wealth would not only be beneficent for him in this world but also in the hearafter if he did spend it in the way of Allah.

the words zakat and sidagah are hebrew words for tax to the poor and charity.
 
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Gharib

I want Khilafah back
My guess is Judaism, since it is the parent religion of Islam and Christianity. If either of them "is" the right path then Judaism is even more so.

Esalam I'm waiting for you to jump on what I said, go ahead say Adam and everybody else were Muslim, even though you don't realize that you prove my words.

a little example:
Originally Posted by eselam
for a muslim the wealth Allah has given him would be a reward for him if he handled it in the way islam says so (ie, give the zakat (tax to the poor), give sadaqah (charity) to a needy person etc.) the wealth would not only be beneficent for him in this world but also in the hearafter if he did spend it in the way of Allah.

the words zakat and sidagah are hebrew words for tax to the poor and charity.

if you want to continue this parent religion thing, i can come to the appropriate thread. the one in the islam forum. would you like that or do you want me to asnwer you here?
 

Zardoz

Wonderful Wizard
Premium Member
thats not why there is no peace. well it was the christians that started everything. if it hadn't been for the crusades, there would have been much peace on earth. but it's not because they say their religion if better and yours is not. if you dissagre then dissprove their claims in a civilised maner.

You are right, the crusades were a horror. Not only for your people but mine too, as you probably already know. Every Jewish community on the path was decimated. And much suffering has occurred ever since. They came to you a few times, but we live among them ongoing.

Here's the thing. If, like many (not all but many) christians someone has the opinion that their way is the *only* way to G-d and all others are false, then it only follows that such a mindset begins to see others ('unsaved') as less than human. After all, from that mindset, if they're 'unsaved' they aren't going to 'heaven'. So, if they're not going to 'heaven' what does it matter what happens to them here? They belong to 'Satan'. Maybe they are agents of 'Satan'. They must be the 'enemy' of all that is 'good'. Because they aren't 'saved' by 'Jesus'.

See what evil can come of 'one and only one right path' mentality?
 

jtartar

Well-Known Member
Mr K.Venugopal and myself are having a discussion about which religion has the right path to God and what is it about that particular religion that makes it true or sets it appart from the rest. (i think thats what we are discussing :eek:)

so anyways we started the discussion in another thread and was hopping if a staff member could bring our old posts here just so everyone gets a picture of whats going on. i will post the link to the other thread here in a short moment

one thing i would appreciate from other members who intend to post here, is to please keep it civilised. i'm sure K.Venugopal would appreciate that as much as me.

and i believe it was my turn to answer.

the link to the other thread is: peace b upon u :) and the posts are #5,9,25,26. thanks to whoever will copy them here

eselam,
According to the Bible, the inspired word of God there is only one faith, belief that He accepts, Eph 4:3-6. Since there are thousands of different beliefs how do you pick the one approved by God?? First you must recognize that the Holy Bible is the word of the only true God, John 17:3. Even a cursory investigation will prove to any honest hearted person that The Bible is completely accurate and reliable.- 1Pet 1:25, 2Tim 3:16,17. The Bible tells about the creation about man being created on earth and what his destiny would be, Gen 2:4, 3:17-19. Only the Bible gives answers that no on else knew, when the scriptures were written, Job 26:7,10, Isa 40:22. Almost a third of the Bible is PROPHECY. Every prophecy has come true exactly as prophesied or is in process of being fulfilled right now. Only the Bible says that the God of the Bible will destroy all other gods because they are really NONEXISTENT, and will destroy all persons who worship these nonexistent gods,Jere 10:10,11, Ps 115:1-8.
You must believe in and have faith in Jesus Christ and the Great RANSOM he provided to all who put active faith in him, Acts 4:12, John 3:16, 6:40, 14:6, Matt 20:28, 1John 2:22,23,3:23, 4:14,15, 5:1,12.
The true religion WILL be persecuted and looked down on, Just as the Master was, John 15:18-20, Luke 6:22,23, 26, Matt 5:10-12, 2Tim 3:12.
The true religion will have people who have trained their consciences so that the KNOW God's will, Heb 5:14.
True Christians study the word of God so they can teach others God's will, Matt 28:19,20, 2Tim 4:2-5, 1Tim 4:16, 1Pet 3:15. They make sure of what they teach because they do not want to stumble someone, the very ones who Jesus died for, 1Cor 8:11,12, Rom 12:2, Phil 1:9-11, Col 1:9,10, 1Thess 5:21, James 3:1, Matt 18:6,7.
True Christians follow closely the footsteps of Jesus, 1Pet 2:21,22, Matt 10:24,25.
True Christians do not get involved with things of the world, James 4:4, 1John 2:15-17, John 18:36,37.
We are to follow the actions of the Prince of Peace, Jesus, Isa 9:6,7, Jesus said that anyone who takes up the SWORD WILL die by the SWORD, Matt 5:44,45, 26:52, 2Tim 2:24-26, 2Cor 10:3-5.
True Christians do not have anything to do with Idols, Ex 20:4,5,Isa 40:18-20, 1John 5:21, 1Cor 10:14.
True Christians are actually Idoloclasts, Iconoclasts, IMAGEBREAKERS. Christians try to teach about all the false beliefs that have become Sacred Cows to false religion today, 2Cor 10:3-5.
True Christians are HONEST in all things, Heb 13:18.
True Christians do NOT have sexual relations with anyone to whom they are not married, 1Cor 6:15-20, Heb 13:4, they do not even jest about such things,Eph 5:3-5.
Notice this principle: 1John 5:3, which says; This is what the love of God means that we OBEY His commandmenst, but His commandments are NOT BURDENSOME. This means that God's commandmeants are for our own good and for our protection, Deut 10:13, Isa 48:17,18., not to hinder us from doing things that are good for us. God, whose personal name is JEHOVAH, has no interest in making arbitrary laws, just because He, as the Almighty Creator of the Heavens and the earth, has the authority. God makes laws for our good, because we many times do not know what is best for ourselves, Jere 10:23. Sometimes even the Holy Spirit PLEADS for us because we do not know what to pray for, Rom 8:26.
 

arimoff

Active Member
if you want to continue this parent religion thing, i can come to the appropriate thread. the one in the islam forum. would you like that or do you want me to asnwer you here?

It doesn't make a difference. I don't like to argue, I gave my point and the rest is up to you.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
If God is Love then a religion representing Him should be an example of that Love by being accepting, humble, kind, giving, nourishing etc.
A religion that is exclusive, promotes violence and punishment, claims it is the only way and is repressing cannot, in my opinion, me representing truth. It seems a complete contradiction of God.
 

Quiddity

UndertheInfluenceofGiants
I'm trying to think what meaningful post can come of such a question. Most religions are more then anyone can possibly post on this one thread and we are supposed to answer without seeming bias?
 
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