That fear is quite prevalent, considering how impossible it is to happen.
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Which Religions Will Die Out?
- Thread starter Kirran
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There are a LOT of governments which actively promote particular religions, so I'm with you here.
Besides, the very few times it was attempted to eradicate religion by any government (Stalinist Russia is arguably the only example) it just did not work, not by a long shot.
There is little reason to expect new attempts to be made, and none to expect any to succeed.
Many of those countries with the most freedom of religion are in fact those with the lowest religiosity.
It's a trick!
So like the Governments played the old "Reverse Psychology" on their populace? Those sneaky ********!
It is to be expected.
How dare they!
cataway
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as I recall there are a number of things that were impossible in the bible record .
Scientology doesn't say anything specifically regarding God or Gods. Nor are there any required rituals. So you are free to adopt any view of God or none, follow any rituals you feel appropriate.
They believe in a soul they call a thetan. The thetan is not a thing, it is the source of creation.
The pursuit of Scientology is the pursuit of the 8th dynamic which is the supreme self. The first dynamic the self incarnate as you are now. Ethics is based on the survival through each dynamic. Dynamics are urges or desires. The desire for self survival. The second dynamic is the desire for creativity or to survive creatively. Third is group or family, forth is species, fifth is all life. Spiritually you come to realize the self in all things eventually realizing the eighth dynamic.
They way they deal with kharma is through what they call engrams. This are events which occurred in either a current or past life. Either done by or to you which have negatively influenced your life. What they have you do is recall these events which allow you to realize the source of the negative kharma. Once you've realize the source of this negative influence your are able to let go of it.
This negative "kharma" is what keeps the thetan trapped within it's physical form. The ideal is to release the thetan from these negative influence so it can realize the self through all dynamics eventually obtaining realization of the 8th dynamic.
They train auditors which assist the individual through this self realization.
Not really. Neither seem to recognize a supreme self. They both seem very theistically oriented. They also have heaven, hell and such. There's no decide. No deity to please nor word of God. No prophets.
Indeed, that fear is hardly alone.
When I here what Hindus have to say it sounds so familiar. Just personal observation, I'm not trying to imply anything sinister.
I was a scientologist some 35 years ago. I got out because I had some problems with some of the individual personalities involved.
Initially it's kind of like going to confession. Professing all your guilty deeds of this life. Acknowledging all the "evil" things you've done that caused harm to others. Then you start recalling things which couldn't have happened in this life. Yet they remain as vivid a memory as any. You go back acknowledging all the harm you've done and all the harm done to you.
Although in Hinduism I don't think they try to release themselves from kharma like this. More trying to control their desires then discovering the source of them?
Bit of a tangent, but what do you think of Scientology now you're no longer a Scientologist?
I think it evolved into a political entity which is always a mistake for a religion. That's why I will probably always support secular governments. Religion has no place in politics.
Unfortunately Nixon and Scientology went to war which each other. Hubbard complained about Nixon's support of psychiatry and Nixon tried to use the Secret Service and IRS to prevent Hubbard from making any negative comments about him. It all kind of escalated.
Me too. I might be wrong about how Hinduism deals with kharma.
Do you mean the tax exemption?
Whether legit or not it would probably never have come up if Hubbard supported Nixon.
Scientology supposedly infiltrated the IRS, dug up a bunch of corruption and threatened to go public so the government backed off.
Nothing very spiritual or religious about that. Since Scientology was successful I guess they continue to use these tactics. Maybe becoming the demon they thought they were fighting against.
They've apparently been attacking people who say anything negative about them. Sound familiar?