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Which Religious Scripture Is Truly The Word Of God?

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
This has all been brought up before and proved to be false, rewriting/retranslating, or previously know info.

For instance Aristotle (384-322 BC) argued in his writings that the Earth was spherical, because of the circular shadow it cast on the Moon, during a lunar eclipse.

The Quran is supposedly from 610 AD. In other words people knew the earth was spherical long before Mohammed.

Also please add verse and number so we can look them up to see what they actually say.

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False accusations.

All of them were not false.

Until you can provide me evidence i say otherwise.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
That is a misconception.

An Anti-Islamic hating video does not prove any point.

The viewer is clearly making false claims without an understanding of the Qur'an just as you are.

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9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
When put into comparison, all religious scriptures, which prevails over the other?

They must contain the following

1) Complex literature
2) Prophecies and Scientific evidences
3) Logic
4) No Errors



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Peace.
Back up one step: before you deal with any of that, you need to make your case for why a god would choose such a flawed medium as scripture to communicate with humanity. If you can't answer this question, you can't justify any claim that scripture is the word of God.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
You have no evidence behind your claim but irrational perspective

In fact, I did demonstrate my reasoning by my primary use of another definition, and then clarify by saying "under my definition." That's not a claim at all, and thus doesn't require evidence.

Unless, of course, you want to dispute my claim about the word's etymology. I can give you sources for that, if you want.

whilst i do.

Show it, then. Tip: no religious book, including the Qur'an, is evidence, since I'm an outsider who also neither has nor needs scripture for my own religion. Show something tangible. (In other words, you've not yet shown any evidence, just more unsubstantiated claims.)

A man-made God might be defined as a God in society, but is it truly existing?

Nope.

I'm pretty sure Emperor Akihito is a real, breathing, living human being, and very much a God under my definition. :p

I'm also pretty sure that Sun, Earth, Sky, Moon, and Sea all exist, too. :p :p Earth is very much a Goddess for me, as is Sea.
 
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Subhankar Zac

Hare Krishna,Hare Krishna,


It is more difficult for a ignorant man to accept truth than a blind man.
One does it out of ego and the other simply lacks the resources.
His last thread should give some idea about why he creates these posts about true religions and at last believes that the Quran alone is the true word of God.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
ALL of these scientific evidences along with much more, do you still deny that the Qur'an is not divine?

Does the Qur'an go against any of the current scientific consensuses? Say... natural selection, big bang theory, general and special relativity, quantum mechanics...

By the way...

Today Science tells us that the Atmosphere, outside the earth, it prevents and acts like a ceiling prevents the harmful radiation and the ultraviolet rays from entering the earth. If this was not there, then life would not exist on the face of the earth.

Wrong.

Only one part of the atmosphere does that, not the atmosphere as a whole. Furthermore, Planet Earth is very much composed of both the atmosphere and the surface, so the atmosphere is not "outside" the planet.

Also, not all the UV radiation is blocked, hence why you can still get sunburned if you a pasty Northerner like me. DX In fact, some people can actually see that UV light.

Meanwhile, check this out: http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/UVB/

ATHEISTS & AGNOSTICS:
HAHAHAH THAT IS FALSE, OBVIOUSLY A HUMAN SAID ALL THAT PFFTTTTT

Well, first off, I'm not an atheist, I'm an animist polytheist.

Second, obviously a human said all that, because you're a human (I assume), and you're the one who said all that. :p
 
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Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
That is a misconception.

An Anti-Islamic hating video does not prove any point.

The viewer is clearly making false claims without an understanding of the Qur'an just as you are.

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The Quran doesn't say reflected light. So there you are.

The video shows that it does not say reflected light. They also show other moon verses which prove the moon itself was being called a light, - lamp - etc.

You are doing exactly what a Christian was doing a couple of days ago, - claiming the Bible said the earth was a sphere, when the word used actually meant a scribed flat circle. A pancake shape.

As I said - put the book, verse, and number, on your Quran assertions, so we can look them up for ourselves.

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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
None of them. My one criteria is that it contains no mistakes, but I've not read any religious book that is error free. In regards to the Quran, it didn't even get where sperm is produced right, it claims humans were made from clay, and it says the Earth is rolled out like a carpet, the sun sets in a muddy spring, and it claims fresh and salt water do not mix.
Today Science tells us that the Atmosphere, outside the earth, it prevents and acts like a ceiling prevents the harmful radiation and the ultraviolet rays from entering the earth. If this was not there, then life would not exist on the face of the earth.
It doesn't act like that at all. It filters some out, but yet enough still gets through that over exposure to sunlight can cause sickness in some, and it can even cause skin cancer.
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
False accusations.

All of them were not false.

Until you can provide me evidence i say otherwise.

I'm not going to provide you anything, - unless they are plunked down right in front of me like my first to rebuttals were, - until you site the source information. What book, verse, and numbers, - so we can look at the verses for ourselves. Until then you are just talking.

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YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
When put into comparison, all religious scriptures, which prevails over the other?
I would suggest that each religious person will say their book is the best. Is this hard to understand or summin'?

They must contain the following
Um... who says? I didn't know there was a manual on how to write religious scriptures.

1) Complex literature
That about covers any book written for humans over the age of 9. No biggy there.
2) Prophecies and Scientific evidences
Hahahaha... Scientific evidence.... *groans* (Make it stop. Please. Make it stop.) Maybe one day, when Muslims actually make scientific discoveries again they will begin to shy away from pretending that their little book is chocked full of them.
But logical to whom? Just because you think something is logical does not mean I will.
4) No Errors
I won't hold my breath on the lengths some folks will go to explain the distortions in their favorite little book pretending that those distortions aren't really distortions if you look at them in just the right way.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Only somewhat universal in society.

Imagine it 1400 years ago, i think it is beyond human capacity to be totally honest.

This is divinity.
Not really, you just don't have a very well developed imagination, and so it SEEMS that divinity is the only explanation.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
That is a misconception.

An Anti-Islamic hating video does not prove any point.

The viewer is clearly making false claims without an understanding of the Qur'an just as you are.

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Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Back up one step: before you deal with any of that, you need to make your case for why a god would choose such a flawed medium as scripture to communicate with humanity. If you can't answer this question, you can't justify any claim that scripture is the word of God.
It is not flawed, but he send it down as a guide to humanity.

People have free will, they either reject or not.
 

Jabar

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9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
It is not flawed, but he send it down as a guide to humanity.
There's no holy book that's accepted by the majority of humanity. Doesn't the fact that every holy book has been so unconvincing that most people don't accept it speak to a failure on the part of the holy book?

People have free will, they either reject or not.
And the people who reject what should be considered the true word of God have flawed senses of reason.

Who gave these people their senses of reason?
There is no single religious holy book thats
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
"I know that religion X must be true because it's the religion I was indoctrinated to believe in as a child by the society I happened to be born into."

If you're someone who sees scripture as a necessity in your life, just print out the material here and compile a book out of it.
 
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Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
There's no holy book that's accepted by the majority of humanity. Doesn't the fact that every holy book has been so unconvincing that most people don't accept it speak to a failure on the part of the holy book?


And the people who reject what should be considered the true word of God have flawed senses of reason.

Who gave these people their senses of reason?
There is no single religious holy book thats

I would disagree, the billions of people would also disagree.

God of course did, but that does not matter.

You used your own senses of reasons in the wrong way.
 
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