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Which world is better?

sandy whitelinger

sandy whitelinger

Veteran Member
Shadow Wolf said:
So I get to be brain zapped in order to have the same emotions and leveled out capabilities (at a significant cost of my own) at logic and abstract thought, all so I can join some club with a being who calls himself god who wants to call that "eternal paradise?" The only way to undue such a discernment is to reject the gifts that were given to us, those characteristics that make us "us." To a crocodile eating a gazelle, it really is the natural order of things that reign supreme. But because we known pain and suffering, and the ability to have abstract logical thought and an awesome evolutionary draw of the card, that we have beaten many of our tiniest and deadliest foes. Life isn't just happiness and bliss. It's also agony and grief.
Essentially, your god wants to change us all into something else, which means "you" as you know yourself won't be their either. Tough love and learning the hard way, they won't be a part of "you" anymore.
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Nice talking with ya.
 
Segev Moran

Segev Moran

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The one where humans are treated equally regardless of whatever "truth" someone thinks he knows.
The one where no one is allowed to hurt another person in the name of a made up claim.
The one where life is more valuable than land, money, power, idea or anything else for that matter.
The one where woman are only physically different than man.
The one where children are raised to be educated and curious about our reality.
The one where in order to decide someone's guilt you must provide reliable evidence and not rumors or idiotic ideas.

!!!
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Segev Moran said:
The one where humans are treated equally regardless of whatever "truth" someone thinks he knows.
The one where no one is allowed to hurt another person in the name of a made up claim.
The one where life is more valuable than land, money, power, idea or anything else for that matter.
The one where woman are only physically different than man.
The one where children are raised to be educated and curious about our reality.
The one where in order to decide someone's guilt you must provide reliable evidence and not rumors or idiotic ideas.

!!!
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That's a world I'd like.
 
TheBannerofHomuraAkemi

TheBannerofHomuraAkemi

Active Member
kjw47 said:
Satans lie to Eve and her listening caused all the pain and death ever. Like a domino effect it grew into this sick system of things.
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No it all falls on Adam. Adam was supposed to teach Eve the rules, but he failed to do a good job and that why Eve believed the serpents misquotation of God's word. But then again it was destine to happen from the start since the serpent was able to get into the garden in the first place.
 
kjw47

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Shadow Wolf said:
Happiness is a fleeting, temporary state of mind. Often we don't know why or what makes us happy. And just because we're happy doesn't mean we are in a good place, where we should be, or going to be satisfied.
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I am confident our creator knows what he is doing.
 
kjw47

kjw47

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sandy whitelinger said:
It does for me. It's only a percieved value system. Change your perception and you the that it all integrates into one.
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Gods will is all that matters( Matt 7:21)
TheBannerofHomuraAkemi said:
No it all falls on Adam. Adam was supposed to teach Eve the rules, but he failed to do a good job and that why Eve believed the serpents misquotation of God's word. But then again it was destine to happen from the start since the serpent was able to get into the garden in the first place.
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It was actually an angel being speaking through the serpent or possibly turned into it. He was over the earth or garden, The bible says, he got jealous and wanted to be worshipped.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
kjw47 said:
It will be happiness always in Gods kingdom. Not in this satan ruled system of things.
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Happiness all the time just isn't enough for fulfillment. If you're making a robot, it's can be a stressful task filled with frustrations and set backs. Happiness comes at the end if everything functions properly, but it doesn't remain. But the satisfaction is lasting. One of the pictures I had on display in an art gallery, my fingers started to hurt and ache from the tediousness of it and the hundreds of individual lines, it very quickly turned into a project of massive time consumption, and all though there was happiness in seeing it displayed, that happiness has long since passed and I am left with something better when I see that picture now, and that is the satisfaction and fulfillment that it was on display for public viewing, and that can never be taken away or diminished by temporal emotions that are in constant flux.
 
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james blunt

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kjw47 said:
1) God created mortals to know only good. To live forever, never sick, not aging like now. In a garden of Eden( paradise) Put one thing in the way so they could have free will, free will to choose to know God loves us and wants the best for us and created all creation and handed life for free on a silver platter to all mortals. And with variety in all his creations. To be one human family with Love the motive of hearts, not profit.
The angel being called satan and devil rebelled, lied to Eve and she listened, Adam stood up for her over God. If God killed all 3 on the spot, no one ever born would have been, plus later1/3 of the angels fell. So once and for all time it is being proved which world is better. The one that mortals know only good, or this system of things ruled by satan? If one wants to live in Gods world. They must live now to do his will( Matt 7:21) Gods kingdom will bring a reality of Gods plan back to action. That is why it is good news-the coming of Gods kingdom.
Which world is better?
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Couldn't Satan's world change?

I would ask God if God has such great power, then God has the power to reveal himself to Satan's world and remove bad from Satan's world making it Eden once again. God could simply remove all the weapons , plants more fruit trees and abolish a rich/poor divide. Once God revealed themselves to Satan's world the world would all acknowledge God, effectively killing Satan's ideology. God could just make everyone rich and free to holiday all the time ,, sports etc fun times.
 
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