dianaiad
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Er....
No. Christ doesn't need any money to 'win.' However, the people caught up in the projected chaos might just need help to survive; you know...eat and stuff?
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Whistleblower to IRS: "Mormon Church has amassed $100 billion in tax-empt fund
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No. Christ doesn't need any money to 'win.' However, the people caught up in the projected chaos might just need help to survive; you know...eat and stuff?
Heyo
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Not my money but US taxpayers money. If there is a law or regulation against hoarding donation money (tax free), then the LDS probably owes the IRS a lot of money.
Wandering Monk
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The Mormons may need the money to move to Jerusalem.
That's my point. Sure Christ can do it by Himself, but to think we shouldn't participate and fight to save humanity ourselves misses the whole point of Christ's message.
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad - Wikipedia
I don't personally see enough evidence from Wikipedia that he was Jesus Christ come again, but I'm glad he was able to make many rational arguments to that effect.
By the way, although many Latter-day Saints certainly have skeletons in their closets, and while almost all ancient prophets did, I am confident that no modern prophet or apostle in the LDS Church has anything serious enough to be called a skeleton.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
I haven't really been following this thread all that closely, but since I live in Salt Lake City, which is the headquarters of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, I thought I'd just share what our local television news had to say with regards to the story. The Church, as might be expected, has noted that the whistle-blower had drawn his conclusions with limited information which is an entirely logical statement. Ordinary rank and file members do not have access to the kind of information that the leadership has, and this guy was definitely not an LDS big-shot. I'm not interested in debating whether this $100 billion fund actually exists or not. It probably does. What I found interesting is that the man who filed the complaint did so after his wife and kids decided to leave the Church. He has asked for a "whistle-blowers cut" of the money the Church will have to pay should any eventual ruling be against what it has done. That says a lot about the guy to me. The other point I found more amusing than anything else is his statement that the fund exists as a "Second Coming of Christ Fund." I wonder where in the 70-page document he stole from his former employer it actually says anything of the kind. Who knows what the funds are actually intended to be used for? They certainly aren't going towards lavish lifestyles of the Church's leadership and it's very, very, very unlikely for the leadership to actually have referred to the fund anywhere as a "Second Coming of Christ Fund." I think the whistle-blower should have quit while his accusations were still somewhat believable. Anyway, that's all from me.
paarsurrey
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Thanks for one's clarification.
Regards
paarsurrey
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I just quoted from the Wikipedia so that one could have some initial information. For some detailed/concise information one may access the following link, please:
Ahmadiyya Muslim Community - Official website
Right, please?
Regards
paarsurrey
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Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
When Jesus comes back, he is supposed to rule from Jerusalem, so maybe the Mormons want to go live there then.
dianaiad
Well-Known Member
No it isn't.
It's non-profit. The church isn't making a dime from this. The church owns private businesses which DO pay taxes...no problem. This money, however much it actually turns out to be, doesn't produce a profit. You didn't pay any of it. You aren't entitled to any of it.
Your problem is just that you want other people's stuff.
I think, somehow, that you would be rather unhappy if someone made your favorite charity...if you contribute to a charity, that is, pay taxes because 'they' don't approve of what the money is used for.
Well, you don't get to dictate what other non-profits do with THEIR money, just because you don't approve.
dianaiad
Well-Known Member
Uhmn...you must be thinking of a different group.
I accept him for the good man that he is.
dianaiad
Well-Known Member
You MIGHT be better off asking some Mormons about that, rather than speculating.
Just sayin'.
Not at all. I just care if there are tax rules that are being avoided/broken. Avoiding taxes is exactly tantamount to robbing the American people. And even Mormon's must agree that ought to be wrong.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Thanks and regards
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
Tax avoidance is legal. Tax evasion is not.
My understanding is that a Church can invest its money.
Yes, rule or govern from Jerusalem, but Not any national earthly Jerusalem but 'heavenly Jerusalem'.
Or, as Galatians 4:26 says Jerusalem ' above ' is now mother.
God's kingdom government (Daniel 2:44) comes ( thy kingdom come.... ) in that God's will (His purpose) comes to bring heavenly benefits to Earth ( as it is being done in Heaven ).
In Heaven there is No crime, No violence, No war, No sickness and No death in Heaven.
So, we are praying for those same heavenly conditions to come and exist right here on Earth.
Just as Jesus is the invisible head of the Christian congregation today, so Jesus will be world wide.
The executional words from Jesus' mouth will rid the Earth of the wicked - Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16