You were asking me, not the Methodist Church.
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Whistleblower to IRS: "Mormon Church has amassed $100 billion in tax-empt fund
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That would be a charitable use of the money and at a rate most charities are unable to operate at.
paarsurrey
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No, that is only a prelude/preparation to it, friend. I will happily mention the signs to it.
Its truthful part starts from Quran.
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What difference does that make? None.
You can just say you have no evidence. You won't burst into flames for being honest.
Jedster
Flying through space
So you can't actually prove it to those you are saying it to.
Fair enough, not everyone can prove their beliefs.
You are moving the goal posts. The question was about a claim regarding the second coming and not about whether it is believed or not. You said some dude did it. I don't know you, so I am going to need more than your say so.
But you have already let the cat out of the bag with moving goal posts, evasiveness and refusal to provide evidence.
Sure you believe, but that is not evidence anyone else should.
I don't know that anyone can, but it might solve some problems if one could. Or make them much worse. Who knows.
Jedster
Flying through space
Well, in this case, @paarsurrey is claiming that the money should go to the Ahmadis who know that the second coming has happened.
He should prove it to the LDS people and then to all the others, so will unite many different religions.
Right?
That is what I have been asking him. Give us the evidence that the guy is Christ and has fulfilled the prophecy.
SInce there has been some use of logical fallacies and no evidence forthcoming I have no reason to accept some naked assertion. Besides there is no precedent for evidential support of any religious assertion in history, so I wasn't really expecting anything now.
Salvador
RF's Swedenborgian
If this $100 billion second-coming of Christ fund were to double on average every decade, it'd be worth ca. 100 trillion dollars in the year 2120. Of course, if Christ were to have failed returning to Earth by then, I suppose this fund will finally have been liquidated by then.
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Some people go through enough fire to be called Saints.
That doesn't count people in the streets or clicking on the links at hungersite.com
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
That is not my point. The Christians who had given donations for welcome of "Second Coming", they are unaware that it has already taken place in the form of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908- the truthful Promised Messiah in Second Coming and Imam Mahdi, as I understand. Jesus, I am certain, is never to come again physically, I understand, as that money morally belongs to Ahmadiyya peaceful Islam and is to be donated to the internationally recognized Ahmadiyya Charity "Humanity First". Please ensure, if one could use one's good offices, that the money is donated to this Charity. Right, please?
If one has monetary resources one may like to donate to it straightaway directly, no harm. Right, please?
Regards
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Jesus was devoted to Religion and was trained as Jewish Rabbi, so the money belongs to the truthful Religion. Right, please?
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paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Well, I have it, rest assured.
And I am definitely going to provide brilliant Signs and reasonable arguments to that effect. I know, if convinced, one will not charge any commission and fight the case free of charge, voluntarily. Right, please?
Is one ready to be convinced with reasons?
Has one made one's mind and heart for it, please?
Regards
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Well even in his "First Coming", many peoples opposed Jesus to the extent that he was put on the Cross but his bones were not broken by the Romans so that he survives but of course he died later naturally when he was very old.
This time in the "Second Coming" he was opposed tooth and nail in India, where he lived. He was born in Qadian a village, now town, in the District Gurdaspur , the then British India. He was no put on the Cross in the second coming but was opposed by Christians, Muslims, Hindus , etc ::
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad - Wikipedia
That is done to every truthful reformer Messenger/Prophet, so the "Second Coming" is no exception. Right, please?
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paarsurrey
Veteran Member
No, Sir, I can and I will, I solemnly promise.
But one did not disclose one's religion. That is important so that I may put the case properly. We are friends and it will be (open) secret. Right, please?
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paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Friend.
No, I have not moved the goal posts, rather the post are nigh, please read my later posts.
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paarsurrey
Veteran Member
That we are already doing though we did not know that their church has collected so much donations. Further, their priests, won't let access them, as the money collected is at stake. Right, please?
Perhaps one could help break the ice. Will one, please?
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