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white people to the back, black people to the front

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member

The mo' society gives to shut rioters up the mo' they want and the mo' they get.
Rioting for mo' and getting mo' has become a way of life for those that won't
make their own way.
Sad.
Ethnics that take, and take, and take, & send themselves to a self imposed prison.
It's called government projects. Da futcha in da 'hood.

My city had a government housing project.
New, well built, homes much better than any working cop could afford.
In just one year it was a DUMP!
The very few that were kept very well and nice were older blacks with values
and some J.W.'s that also had values.
I was raised in 'da hood and knew the older blacks with fine values.
They baby sat me and my sister when momma left for work at a bakery.
We were raised with black kids, the only white kids in da hood, and were
treated the same as anyone else.
Then dad got outa jail, quit drinking, and bought a home in the country,.
HE HATED blacks.
He must have forgotten who took care of us kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I want paid. Society OWES ME!
My mom's family was poor Irish trash. They barely survived the English, escaping to the New World around 1900.
My dad's family was a couple of low income people escaping Canada in the 20s. My gran was quite the modern woman. She actually drove in a flivver with a man she wasn't married to all the way from the Soo to the wilds of Gary, Indiana, USA.

And frankly, they were racist. In the world they lived in all white people were. My mom's family were lucky when they achieved white status. The micks and the wops and the frogs weren't really white before WWII.

By the time I was growing up it wasn't WASPs versus "everyone else". It was white versus black. It was the 60s, and an Irish Catholic president had been assassinated.
Nothing says "acceptance" like being killed for reasons that have nothing to do with your ethnicity.
As the child of the oppressed of yesteryear, I don't feel entitled to "reparations" . What I want is egalitarian principles to be the foundation of my country's ethics going forward.
You can't fix old wrongs by committing new ones.
Tom
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
I would not be against them being detained and questioned. Their possible arrest would be solely up to them. If they continued to spew their drivel in front of officers, sure. Arrest them. Even in your country one is not allowed to scream "Fire" in a crowded theater, so even your much vaunted free speech has limits.
Screaming "Fire" in a crowded theatre is not comparable.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
I understand there are a few crazies out there, but I don't get the folk who follow him and are actually paying 'reparations'
Agreed! Half my family are white the other half (ancestor wise at least) suffered under British rule. But I'm not going to ask "whitey" for reparations! That would be rather awkward at family gatherings lol!
Besides what's done is done. If you hold too tightly to the past you forget to live in the present.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
By its name alone, BLM was destined to fan and flame anti-white and anti-black emotions in this country. You don't see that? And the situation in 2016 America is not so dire that this is necessary or constructive.
We can't always tell how people may take almost anything we might say, but wouldn't you admit that "black lives matter" if taken literally? Does it say or imply that other lives don't matter? Not that I can see, so why should anyone take it that way?
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
We can't always tell how people may take almost anything we might say, but wouldn't you admit that "black lives matter" if taken literally? Does it say or imply that other lives don't matter? Not that I can see, so why should anyone take it that way?
It screams 'us victimized race' barely between the lines.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
It screams 'us victimized race' barely between the lines.
And then they attack the people who are the main line of defense for Black Lives, the cops.

Instead of attacking the real threats they are attacking the police. I am sure that #BLM will result in more violent death for black people, because the overwhelmingly large threat to black people is other black people.
Tom
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
It screams 'us victimized race' barely between the lines.
And do you honestly think there isn't any racism by certain police based on their actions?

Is it wrong for police to complain that some blacks have targeted them?

Is it wrong that some Jews feel that the Holocaust was a travesty of justice and that it shouldn't happen again to anyone?

Is it wrong if Muslims sometimes feel discriminated against by some people, including the likes of Trump?

Is it wrong that you are complaining above because that also can be construed as being"divisive" by showing no sympathy for black families who've lost unarmed sons? Are you denying that this has happened?

You simply cannot say that BLM is "divisive" and then ignore what you've repeatedly been saying that can very well be interpreted as being very "divisive", which is why we're having this disagreement, right?:)
 

freethinker44

Well-Known Member
I noticed that myself. Really spectacular hatefulness!
One thing it made me wonder about. It wouldn't take a lot of editing to make a few seconds of video into a drastic alteration of what actually happened. You see the same thing happen with many videos of police actions.
By the comments I would imagine the poster's audience to be angry racist people and he gave them what they want. Same as the #BLM people do.
Tom
In what context would it be acceptable to separate people by race in this situation?
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
And do you honestly think there isn't any racism by certain police based on their actions?

Is it wrong for police to complain that some blacks have targeted them?

Is it wrong that some Jews feel that the Holocaust was a travesty of justice and that it shouldn't happen again to anyone?

Is it wrong if Muslims sometimes feel discriminated against by some people, including the likes of Trump?

Is it wrong that you are complaining above because that also can be construed as being"divisive" by showing no sympathy for black families who've lost unarmed sons? Are you denying that this has happened?

You simply cannot say that BLM is "divisive" and then ignore what you've repeatedly been saying that can very well be interpreted as being very "divisive", which is why we're having this disagreement, right?:)
Many of us have the perception (I believe correctly) that blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crimes and poor social behaviors and are too quick to call victimization. This organization (BLM) is divisive as it fans and flames anti-white emotions among many blacks predictably followed by increased anti-black emotions by many fed-up whites. This group is a flame stimulant in a society where things have been getting progressively better (until their input).

There is always anti-white and anti-black emotions out there and this group fans and flames them. Can't you see?:)
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Many of us have the perception (I believe correctly) that blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crimes and poor social behaviors and are too quick to call victimization. This organization (BLM) is divisive as it fans and flames anti-white emotions among many blacks predictably followed by increased anti-black emotions by many fed-up whites. This group is a flame stimulant in a society where things have been getting progressively better (until their input).

There is always anti-white and anti-black emotions out there and this group fans and flames them. Can't you see?:)
You are using circular reasoning while at the same time throwing in an element that really doesn't pertain to what's being discussed, namely black crime.

And what are "fed-up" whites supposedly so "fed-up" about? Blacks defending themselves against bigotry and brutality? So, because some whites that may have some ax to grind are to have their way, whereas black protests are to be eliminated or at least disdained? Do you honestly think that your approach fits into our American tradition of free speech that may involve organized protest? If it were your unarmed children being killed by some over-zealous police officers, would you feel the same way? I think not.

fini
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
You are using circular reasoning while at the same time throwing in an element that really doesn't pertain to what's being discussed, namely black crime.

And what are "fed-up" whites supposedly so "fed-up" about? Blacks defending themselves against bigotry and brutality? So, because some whites that may have some ax to grind are to have their way, whereas black protests are to be eliminated or at least disdained? Do you honestly think that your approach fits into our American tradition of free speech that may involve organized protest? If it were your unarmed children being killed by some over-zealous police officers, would you feel the same way? I think not.

fini

Well. a lot of illogical jumps and not hearing what I said previously in there and I am not going to try and sort it all out.

I see it as the ethnic group that commits the most crimes and social wrongs as also the loudest and most enraged when it comes to blaming others and inflaming racial tension. That's where the 'fed-up' whites come from. I don't see race-based undue police brutality as amounting to more than 1% of the problems, but it gets the emotional traction because it fosters a blaming angry attitude. I don't see feeding that attitude as justified or constructive.

I also think many 'fed-up' cops are a predictable outcome of all this.
 
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