White student returns scholarship intended for black students

[Me Myself]

I think a Marthin Luther King stuff would be most fitting for whites AND blacks. Not only blacks.

His dream was for the races to be together after all.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

All over the world there are scholarship programs for every possible ethnic group out there.

There's a scholarship program for white kids? Where?

 

[Kathryn]

Scholarships for white males only:

Texas Group Will Offer Scholarships To White Men Only

Texas Nonprofit Gives Scholarships to White Males - ABC News

 

[Sunstone]

There's a scholarship program for white kids? Where?

I don't think I would feel comfortable with a scholarship program limited to White kids. So why should I feel comfortable with a scholarship program limited to Black kids?

 

[Kathryn]

Look. It is not against the law for scholarships to target ANY group they want as far as students go. It's not against the law for scholarship programs to be discriminatory. They can target gay students, they can target Hispanic students, they can target students from single parent homes, they can target students who have an interest in growing roses, or refurbishing cars, or WHATEVER.

 

[Me Myself]

"The board's goal is to increase enrollment of every single ethnic group in higher education by 5.7 percent "

This is the kind of problems this things make and it is ridiculous, and it is also clear how people can miss it.

That is the alleged purpose of a program of "equality" in ethnic races. Does that seem a porcentage that aims for equality?

Think before answering. Remember that if they aim to increase in the same porcentage every ethnic group, and the ethnic groups in the place DO NOT exist by the same porcentage, then they are indeed giving more favour to one ethnic group.

 

[Kathryn]

I don't think I would feel comfortable with a scholarship program limited to White kids. So why should I feel comfortable with a scholarship program limited to Black kids?

To be honest, it doesn't matter whether or not you feel comfortable. Groups establishing scholarship programs can set one up to target basically any special interest group they want.

Look - here are some programs that will only give scholarships to gay, lesbian, and transgender students:

FinAid | Other Types of Aid | Financial Aid for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgendered Students

Here is a program that will only give scholarships to white males:

FinAid | Other Types of Aid | Financial Aid for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgendered Students

Here's a program that only gives scholarships to Vietnamese students:
The Vietnamese American Scholarship Foundation

Here's a program that only gives scholarships to Miss America contestants:
Miss America : Welcome

Here's a program that only gives scholarships to debutantes:
Debutante Cotillion Scholarship Program « Alpha Kappa Alpha

 

[gnomon]

I think a Marthin Luther King stuff would be most fitting for whites AND blacks. Not only blacks.

His dream was for the races to be together after all.

Maybe one day.

Not quite there yet.

Or, not there quite yet.

Yet, not quite there.

There not yet, quite.

Quite yet there, Not!?!?!

 

[Me Myself]

maybe the foundation should be called, the "MLK Jr Maybe one day but not this one fundation"

 

[Twilight Hue]

I think a Marthin Luther King stuff would be most fitting for whites AND blacks. Not only blacks.

His dream was for the races to be together after all.

Thats the part about King that I admire most.

 

[Me Myself]

Thats the part about King that I admire most.

That´s what truly makes it sad for me that a white kid feels like he needs to pass the award of the MLKJ cause he is not black

And what makes it sad that they actually are going to make it mandatory that they are black from now on.

 

[Sunstone]

To be honest, it doesn't matter whether or not you feel comfortable. Groups establishing scholarship programs can set one up to target basically any special interest group they want.

To be honest, it is simply an arrogant statement to tell someone what they should or should not feel comfortable with. Beyond that, the mere fact something is legal does not mean that anyone must be comfortable with it.

 

[Me Myself]

Technically, they argument wasnt "you should feel comfortable with it" (she downright said it didn´t matter, hence she wasn´t forcing you either way of comfort or discomfort), they argument tried to be "they did nothing wrong because it is legal", which I do agree with you that simply saying it is legal has nothing to do with wheter it is okay, or should be done in general.

 

[Twilight Hue]

That´s what truly makes it sad for me that a white kid feels like he needs to pass the award of the MLKJ cause he is not black

And what makes it sad that they actually are going to make it mandatory that they are black from now on.

Work still needs to be done if the race issues are ever to settle. My work place is a rich mixture of white and black folk. Salt and pepper to a tee. Unless the subject is brought up, I only recognise names to faces. Race oftentimes dosent even come to mind normally.

Perhaps someday. You just need the right generation and just allow the old one to pass. The good news is race issues are improving albiet slowly. I think one day however a generation will look back and wonder in disbelief what the maddness was about concerning race.

 

[Me Myself]

But if you are in the right generation and the laws and organizations still favour some ethny be it because of minority or whatever, again some needless social issues will come.

 

[Sunstone]

Technically, they argument wasnt "you should feel comfortable with it" (she downright said it didn´t matter, hence she wasn´t forcing you either way of comfort or discomfort)...

Technically, dismissing someone's comfort or lack of comfort as "doesn't matter" is an arrogant statement no matter how one tries to weasel his or her way out of it.

 

[Me Myself]

Technically, dismissing someone's comfort or lack of comfort as "doesn't matter" is an arrogant statement no matter how one tries to weasel his or her way out of it.

I don´t think that´s necesarily right, but that´s the matter for another discussion in itself so we´ll agree to disagree. Mostly I was talking about the technicalism that she didn´t really told you in what you should or shouldn´t feel comfortable.

 

[Sunstone]

I don´t think that´s necesarily right, but that´s the matter for another discussion in itself so we´ll agree to disagree. Mostly I was talking about the technicalism that she didn´t really told you in what you should or shouldn´t feel comfortable.

Technicalities? Is that what this is reduced to? Lawyerisms? I think the implication of her remarks was clear enough.

 

[Kathryn]

I don´t think that´s necesarily right, but that´s the matter for another discussion in itself so we´ll agree to disagree. Mostly I was talking about the technicalism that she didn´t really told you in what you should or shouldn´t feel comfortable.

Thanks.

My point wasn't "It's legal so it must be right."

My point was, "These other scholarships are legal - if you have a problem with the scholarship in question, do you have a problem with these as well? Why or why not?"

I guess I should have been more clear.

 

[Kathryn]

Sunstone - I gave examples of other very specific scholarships for special interest groups. Do these make you uncomfortable as well? Do you think they should be made illegal? Why or why not?