Who are the People of God?

[Godobeyer]

I don't want to live forever. I guess I'll have to disobey God's law.

It will be afterlife risk if God is really exist (btw I believe God exist) ,it's probably live forever in way you will regret but regression/repretence won't worth anything,mean something can't be fix.

 

[adam45]

Then there are no "people of God", as I very much doubt that anyone has ever lived up to that standard.

Genesis 26:5
Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

Job 1:1
There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.

 

[dybmh]

God's law is defined in the 66 books of the Bible, nowhere else.

In which language is God's law defined? Have you read God's law in this original language? Did you understand it?

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

It will be afterlife risk if God is really exist (btw I believe God exist) ,it's probably live forever in way you will regret but regression/repretence won't worth anything,mean something can't be fix.

While I can't speak for @SalixIncendium, I don't think he will accept your Pascal's wager argument.

 

[adam45]

In which language is God's law defined? Have you read God's law in this original language? Did you understand it?

The Old Testament was originally written in Hebrew, with some parts in Aramaic.
The New Testament was originally written in Greek.
I cannot speak Hebrew or Greek.
I can only understand by the Spirit of God.

 

[dybmh]

there are no "people of God" as I very much doubt that anyone has ever lived up to that standard.

A point of clarification: In Jeremiah, the "people of God" are the ones who have turned away from God and then return. They are not perfect saints.

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Jeremiah 30:3, 18, 22​

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כי הנה ימים באים נאם־יהוה ושבתי את־שבות עמי ישראל ויהודה אמר יהוה והשבתים אל־הארץ אשר נתתי לאבותם וירשוה׃​

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For, behold, the days come, says the Lord, when I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, says the Lord; and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it.​

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כה אמר יהוה הנני־שב שבות אהלי יעקוב ומשכנתיו ארחם ונבנתה עיר על־תלה וארמון על־משפטו ישב׃​

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Thus says the Lord; Behold, I will bring back the captivity of Jacob’s tents, and have mercy on his dwelling places; and the city shall be build upon her own mound, and the palace shall stand where it used to be.​

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והייתם לי לעם ואנכי אהיה לכם לאלהים׃​

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And you shall be my people, and I will be your God.​

 

[dybmh]

The Old Testament was originally written in Hebrew, with some parts in Aramaic.
The New Testament was originally written in Greek.
I cannot speak Hebrew or Greek.
I can only understand by the Spirit of God.

Is it possible there are laws in the Hebrew which you are not aware of?

God's law is defined in the 66 books of the Bible, nowhere else.

Are you sure?

 

[adam45]

Is it possible there are laws in the Hebrew which you are not aware of?

I've read the Old Testament.

Are you sure?

Yes.

 

[soulsurvivor]

I believe you are from the people of God when you obey God's law.
God's law is defined in the 66 books of the Bible, nowhere else.
If you obey God's law you will live forever.

Those who commit genocide and follow apartheid policies are definitely not the people of God

 

[Trailblazer]

1 John 3:6
No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.

Are you claiming that there are no Christians who have sex out of wedlock?
I for one know that there are quite a few of them, since every Christian who has messaged me on a dating site expects sex out of wedlock.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I don't want to live forever. I guess I'll have to disobey God's law.

Don't worry. Nature is above any God and calls all the shots.

I don't want to live forever as 'me' either. I like to take breaks between 'me's'. Heh.

 

[dybmh]

I've read the Old Testament.

In the Old Testament, there is a law which refers to "totafos". What are these "totafos"? Is it defined in the 66 books of the Bible?

God's law is defined in the 66 books of the Bible, nowhere else.

If the "totafos" are not defined in the 66 books of the Bible, then, logically, they must be defined elsewhere, agreed?

 

[Godobeyer]

While I can't speak for @SalixIncendium, I don't think he will accept your Pascal's wager argument.

We just discussion, he free to accept or not.
I just gave my opinion,and idea probably true,anyway I am sure ,and you probobly too ,after death everything would be clear .

 

[Trailblazer]

I don't want to live forever as 'me' either.

I don't want to live forever as the me that I am right now, which is why I am always trying to improve myself...
I'll never be perfect but I can already see improvements that have been made so I am going to keep continuing in this effort till the day I die.
Becoming a better person and helping others are my primary purposes in life.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I don't want to live forever as the me that I am right now, which is why I am always trying to improve myself...
I'll never be perfect but I can already see improvements that have been made so I am going to keep continuing in this effort till the day I die.
Becoming a better person and helping others are my primary purposes in life.

That's not a bad endeavor. :0)

 

[SalixIncendium]

It will be afterlife risk if God is really exist (btw I believe God exist) ,it's probably live forever in way you will regret but regression/repretence won't worth anything,mean something can't be fix.

Ah, yes. Pascal's wager. While I'd love to play, I don't share your Abrahamic mindset.

Living requires being alive. The life of this body/mind complex ends when the body/mind expires. While I am eternal, I don't live forever.

 

[SalixIncendium]

We just discussion, he free to accept or not.
I just gave my opinion,and idea probably true,anyway I am sure ,and you probobly too ,after death everything would be clear .

And you have every right to your opinion. But I will take exception when you impose those opinions as truths onto me or anyone else.

You're entitled to your "truths." But never assume that your truths are the truths of another.

 

[danieldemol]

If you obey God's law you will live forever.

So Christians keep telling us year after year and yet year after year Christians of all denominations keep on dying in my view.

 

[Trailblazer]

So Christians keep telling us year after year and yet year after year Christians of all denominations keep on dying in my view.

They keep dying physically but their souls do not die, and since the soul is the person, they did not die.
Their souls just took on a new form, a spiritual body.

 

[danieldemol]

They keep dying physically but their souls do not die, and since the soul is the person, they did not die.
Their souls just took on a new form, a spiritual body.

I believe your beliefs don't necessarily reflect the OP's belief, but to answer your personal belief the souls of all people live forever anyway according to my understanding so irrelevant whether they obey gods alleged law