Who believes that the "Second Coming" of Christ is alive?

[George Manuel Oliveira]

I did not watch the videos and I don't know where to find them yet Please link me and I will watch them and tell you what I think.

I believe that Muhammad peace be upon him was the last prophet but I will share my thoughts on your videos so please link me.

My videos of Myself are on page # 4 of this thread.

You can get to My videos of Myself by clicking on the link below.

http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...ho-believes-second-coming-christ-alive-4.html

My videos of Myself are on post # 33, and post # 44.

By the way, thank you for your rebuttal. The reason why I am not quoting everything you said is because I agree with most of it, and I believe you are very reasonable. If I disagreed with what you said, I would give a rebuttal with My opinions.

Please watch all 6 of My videos of Myself, and then tell Me what you think. Please see if you can debunk anything that I said in My videos, because I am open to constructive criticism.

Thank you.

~PEACE~

 

[InChrist]

Why do you think that Jesus peace be upon him is the son of God? in the bible not only Jesus peace be upon him was the son of God, we are all the sons of God.

If you think that Jesus peace be upon him is the son of God because he was born without a father than on that scale, isn't Adam a greater son of God? and what about Eve?

The Bible does not say Jesus is a son of God, they claim He is the Son of God.

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16

 

[Sabour]

The Bible does not say Jesus is a son of God, they claim He is the Son of God.

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16

I can find you many verses in the bible that conteadict this. And the meaning here is to say begottwn son which is an addition that came later on and was removed by scholars.

Through out the the bible it was clear that they way to eternal life was through following the commandements and not through belief.

 

[InChrist]

I can find you many verses in the bible that conteadict this. And the meaning here is to say begottwn son which is an addition that came later on and was removed by scholars.

If a human has a son that son has a human nature. If God has a Son then I think it can only be that God's Son has a God Nature. So Jesus who is called repeatedly the Son of God n the Bible (with an upper case S) is the unique, one of a kind Son of God, the second Person of the Godhead.(Romans 1:20; Col. 2:9)

Through out the the bible it was clear that they way to eternal life was through following the commandements and not through belief.

Actually, I think the scriptures throughout the Bible make it clear that no human being ( Romans 3:23) is ever able to follow all the commandments perfectly...except Jesus and the Bible makes it clear that to be saved one must believe in Jesus and then His righteousness and perfection saves them...


And he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” So they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.” Acts 16:30-31

You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life. John 5:39

 

[Sabour]

If a human has a son that son has a human nature. If God has a Son then I think it can only be that God's Son has a God Nature. So Jesus who is called repeatedly the Son of God n the Bible (with an upper case S) is the unique, one of a kind Son of God, the second Person of the Godhead.(Romans 1:20; Col. 2:9)

First in the bible there are sons of Gods of tons. Not only Jesus peace be upon him was referred by the son of God. This means we are all gods?

Being called sons of Gods is to show the relation between men and their God. It doesn't give any form of specialty.

And about the upper case S, in the original language of the bible there are no upper case and lower case letters.

Actually, I think the scriptures throughout the Bible make it clear that no human being ( Romans 3:23) is ever able to follow all the commandments perfectly...except Jesus and the Bible makes it clear that to be saved one must believe in Jesus and then His righteousness and perfection saves them...

I disagree with that. Jesus peace be upon him clearly said that the way to heaven is by following the commandments. People are not sinners by nature.

I wish you watch this video and tell me what you think

christian bursted in tears after Yusuf Estes answered his question! English subtitle - YouTube

 

[Etritonakin]

Jesus is called the Word in John 1 -which explains that he has always existed with the Father -and explains that all things were made by and for the Word (as instructed by the Father). They are two separate beings, but one God -as they have always co-existed and are in agreement in all things -though the father is in authority and the Word goes forth to say and do his will.

Jesus called himself the "only begotten" son of God...

Joh_3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

...but this means he was begotten in human form (Adam and Eve were directly created -Christ as human was born from a mother without being impregnated by a human male), then begotten by his sacrifice, death and resurrection -and is the FIRSTBORN OF MANY BRETHREN who will likewise die and be resurrected from the dead...

Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

It is the will of the Father that men eventually become like God -become gods -become the children of God.

Php 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
Joh 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Christ is before Adam and Eve because he had existed before Adam and Eve -before he became human as Christ, created Adam and Eve, and has authority over Adam and Eve. Yet, Adam and Eve will be resurrected and can become like God -but with the Father and Son in authority.

The second coming of Christ is the same Christ who became human the first time -who was in the grave a short time -was resurrected and ascended again to heaven -and so has been alive since -but will not return as a human.

Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Mar 13:25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
Mar 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

This sort of glory is much more than human as he comes from the clouds -and is similar to....

Exo 24:17 And the sight of the glory of the LORD was like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel.

and...

Exo 33:20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
Exo 33:21 And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:
Exo 33:22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:
Exo 33:23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

.....and in this similar glory he will return as described here.....

Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

 

[George Manuel Oliveira]

Well George, why don't you make yourself comfortable, and lets have a look, shall we?
so, what does the title of Christ mean to you?

The title of Christ means "the Anointed One", by definition. Personally, I believe that the title of Christ means to be Me- the Prophet of this AGE. I don't really ponder what the title of Christ means. I am the Helper of My people. I will show you great and mighty things that you know not. I believe that the title of Christ means to be the Chosen One-Myself. I am not the Christ because of what I have done on purpose, I am the Christ because of My Life before I had My apotheosis, for the most part, but not exclusively. The title of Christ means to be the Savior of the chosen people. I am the Christ, because that is My innate nature. Its My duty to speak My personal Truth, to create the factual, objective Spirituality for My people.

do you have any previous Christ training or experience in your work history?

No, I never went to school to be the Christ, nor have I worked at a job that trained Me to be the Christ. I actually went to school to be an electronic engineer, but I never finished college. I don't believe that there is a single school to turn people into christs. Haha, but there might be schools for "prophets", but most "prophets" are false prophets. Me, being the Christ, is intuitive, I just need to be Myself.

Where do you see yourself in five years?

I own a house, I actually paid for My house with cash when I was 21 years old. I plan on moving back to My house, and I plan on starting a business. I hope that I will be much richer in 5 years. But My plans may or may not happen, but thats where I see Myself.

If accepted into the position of Christ, what would your first actions and goals be?

I would do many, many things.

I would make it illegal to add fluoride to any water (or food).

I would decriminalize all drugs. If people habitually used hard drugs, I would simply send them to a drug rehab. I would legalize hemp, and people wouldn't get in trouble for marijuana.

I would commence building copious amounts of nuclear fusion power plants, until energy was free, or so cheap that people wouldn't be under a financial burden.

I would commence building farms all over the globe, so that food would be free, or much cheaper. I would commence creating farms on land, underground, inside of mountains, floating on top of the ocean, underwater- or inside the ocean, under the ocean floor, and in outer space. I would build farms in everywhere possibly conceivable.

I would grow hemp farms everywhere too. Hemp can produce many industrial products, i.e., plastic, food, paper, rope, biodiesel, building material, clothes, furnature, etc.. But I think My favorite product that hemp can make is plastic. I would literally build all of the new houses out of clear hemp plastic. Hemp clothes would be virtually free. No one would ever go hungry, because there would be so much food from all of the hemp farms: the hemp seeds are a great source of protien. Hemp biodiesel would virtually be free too, because there would be a super abundace of hemp oil from the seeds. I could go on and on about how the hemp plant can save the world, but this will suffice for now. For the record, hemp plastic is 10 times stronger then steel, and hemp plastic is 12 times lighter then steel: plus, hemp plastic is biodegradable.

I would grow millions of square miles of marijuana, for marijuana oil. I believe that marijuana oil cures cancer. I don't smoke marijuana anymore, but I would legalize marijuana, because it is one of the most benevolent drugs. People should not go to prison for using marijuana in any way. I would rather people use marijuana, compared to hard drugs like crack, heroin, crystal meth, etc.. I would love to see people grow their own marijuana in their front yards, or where ever.

I would also change politics as well. I believe that there should be a global online government. People should have the option of voting for any laws from their personal computers. There could be local, state, national, and global scale voting. I would obviously be the King of My global online government, but My vote would only be as viable as anyone elses vote; but I would want for people to see what I am voting for. There should be a 66% majority, in order to pass a law. I believe that the majority of people would vote for the most reasonable laws. I, the King, would not be able to dictate anything, all of the laws would be made via the majority of people. I would like to see a cap on wealth, too: I don't believe that any individual should be able to own more then $1 billion in assets. I would like to see that poor people don't get taxed on anything; I would only tax the wealthy people. But My global online government would be constantly evolving, and the power would be in the hands of the people.

I would make NASA, and the global military, create the most efficient space craft, for the public. I would call these space craft- SPACE JETS, because its easy to turn a jet into a space craft. So, these SPACE JETS would be able to fly through the air, rocket through outer space, and swim through the water. I would hope that these SPACE JETS would be nuclear fusion powered, but even liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen would work at first. I believe that most people will be flying a SPACE JET, in My Kimgdom. These SPACE JETS will be fully automated, so as long as you know how to use a GPS, you can operate a SPACE JET.

I would change the paradigm of where abodes can be built. I would create homes that are on land, inside the mountains, underground, floating on top of the ocean, underwater- inside the ocean, under the ocean floor, and also in outer space. And you can also have farms in all of these locations as well. There would never be a need for "population control", because I would multiply the living space millions of times. People would always have more then enough space. Houses would be so much cheaper, because the normal working family would own about 6 mansions a piece. There would be no such thing as "homeless people", because there will be public housing for the masses. Some people will turn all the extra space in their mamsions into organic farms; so they are self sufficient. If we build abodes in all of these said locations, everyone will benefit from it.

I would do many, many things.

What a good question! I am so glad that you asked. Its hard to remember all of the things that I would implement. But, I am just the (suggestion) Maker. It would be totally up to My global online government to dictate utopia.

~PEACE~

 

[Sabour]

Jesus is called the Word in John 1 -which explains that he has always existed with the Father -and explains that all things were made by and for the Word (as instructed by the Father). They are two separate beings, but one God -as they have always co-existed and are in agreement in all things -though the father is in authority and the Word goes forth to say and do his will.

Jesus called himself the "only begotten" son of God...

Joh_3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

...but this means he was begotten in human form (Adam and Eve were directly created -Christ as human was born from a mother without being impregnated by a human male), then begotten by his sacrifice, death and resurrection -and is the FIRSTBORN OF MANY BRETHREN who will likewise die and be resurrected from the dead...

Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

It is the will of the Father that men eventually become like God -become gods -become the children of God.

Php 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
Joh 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Christ is before Adam and Eve because he had existed before Adam and Eve -before he became human as Christ, created Adam and Eve, and has authority over Adam and Eve. Yet, Adam and Eve will be resurrected and can become like God -but with the Father and Son in authority.

The second coming of Christ is the same Christ who became human the first time -who was in the grave a short time -was resurrected and ascended again to heaven -and so has been alive since -but will not return as a human.

Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Mar 13:25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
Mar 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

This sort of glory is much more than human as he comes from the clouds -and is similar to....

Exo 24:17 And the sight of the glory of the LORD was like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel.

and...

Exo 33:20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
Exo 33:21 And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:
Exo 33:22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:
Exo 33:23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

.....and in this similar glory he will return as described here.....

Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

Friend Etritonakin, just couple of things I wanted to share.

God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?


The only verse indicating trinity (the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are one) has been removed from the bible by 32 scholars of the bible in the Revised Standard Version among many other verses as fabrication after they realized that these verses do not exist in the most ancient manuscript and as such there is not a single verse indicating Trinity anymore in the complete bible.


John A-V {5:7} For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (This verse does not exist anymore in the RSV)



The fabrication of the Begotten Son

The word begotten has been removed from all Gospels by the same bible scholars as fabrication after they realized that this word does not exist in the most ancient manuscript.

John A-V {3:16} For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (This word does not exist anymore in all Gospels in the RSV), so Jesus is not begotten by God where we find others still alleged to be begotten sons of God according to the bible. examples:

(if the word son, means begotten son )

David was a begotten son of God long before Jesus (according to the bible). Psalms A-V {2:7} I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Israel was a begotten son of God long before Jesus (according to the bible). Exodus A-V {4:22} And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel[is] my son, [even] my firstborn:

So the term Son of God in the language of the Jews means godly person not actual son of God and does not mean divinity at all, examples:

All Jews are sons of God (according to the bible). Psalms A-V {82:6} I have said, Ye [are] gods; and all of you [are] children of the most High.

All those who follow the spirit of God are sons of God (according to the bible). Romans A-V {8:14} For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

 

[Etritonakin]

Technically, I agree that David was "begotten" before Christ. Christ -as human -was born a human after David -though John 1 (and elsewhere) clearly states that the being which became human as Christ (If David was begotten, was Christ not?) -and did not sin -had existed from the beginning with the Father -before David -and Christ is quoted as saying he existed even before Abraham.

Begotten in that sense simply means born as human.

The Word -who was both with God and was God -was able to take on human form and still not lie -or change his mind.

Christ did change some judgments under the law, however -but this was not a change of mind, but part of what was declared from the beginning.

The greater meaning of begotten is to die and be resurrected to immortality (though even Lazarus was resurrected again to the flesh before Christ).

In this sense, Christ is the firstborn of many.

So -the verse you mentioned is of little importance in this regard.

As for the verse about the trinity...

I have not researched the origin of that particular verse, but things such as replacing passover with Easter in scriptures has occurred, so it is possible that verse was not original.

Even if it was -it still does not actually say the holy spirit is a third person -only that it bears record. Capitalization which is not original -mistranslations, etc. seem to personify the spirit of God, also.

Christ said "I and my Father are one" -and John 1 says that in the beginning were the Word and God -two beings -and other verses make clear that the spirit of God -the holy spirit -is not a person.

A thorough search of "spirit of God" and "holy spirit" in scripture shows that it is HOW God does things -it is not itself WHO does them.

In John 1, it makes clear that the being who eventually became Christ did the actual creating of all things (as instructed by the Father) -but then we read in Genesis that the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters -which seems confusing until you understand that the spirit is not a person -but God is moving his spirit upon the waters because that is how he accomplishes things.

The next verse -in biblical order -which mentions the spirit of God is....

Gen 41:38 And Pharaoh said unto his servants, Can we find such a one as this is, a man in whom the Spirit of God is?

...because God had put wisdom within Joseph's mind.

Next we see God -by his spirit -imparting even specific talents to a human....

Exo 31:2 See, I have called by name Bezaleel the son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah:
Exo 31:3 And I have filled him with the spirit of God, in wisdom, and in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship,
Exo 31:4 To devise cunning works, to work in gold, and in silver, and in brass,
Exo 31:5 And in cutting of stones, to set them, and in carving of timber, to work in all manner of workmanship.

The "spirit of God" is also the "holy spirit"

Psa 51:11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.

God has allowed that his mind can change under certain circumstances -such as when he said that blessing and cursing were dependent upon obedience.

Isa 63:8 For he said, Surely they are my people, children that will not lie: so he was their Saviour.
Isa 63:9 In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old.
Isa 63:10 But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.

 

[Sabour]

I didn't say that David was a begotten son, as a matter of fact, there is not begotten son.

The term "word" reveals the role that would be played by Jesus peace be upon him because he was the one God chose to share his message with humanity.

Jesus peace be upon him denied divinity many times in the bible explicitly. This writes off any implicit statement that can lead to thinking otherwise.

And lastly, there is no Creator but God. If you would refer to the original language of the bible, that fact would be clear in the specific verses you mentioned.

Remember that Jesus peace be upon him clearly denied divinity more than once throughout the bible.

 

[Straw Dog]

I believe that I am the Prophet, and I also believe that the "Second Coming" of Christ is alive.

If I am allowed, I will show you guys O My Gods autobiography, videos of O My God, O My Gods prophecies, and Bible stories that O My God allegedly fulfilled.

Please talk about what you believe about the "Second Coming" of Christ.

Well, you definitely seem to have a Christ complex and are perhaps catching a bit of narcissism too. I hear that's going around in certain cultures. In fact, I believe I am Christ and deserve world power too. How can we tell who is who?

 

[Sabour]

Relax you guys, age of prophets is gone and there is only the second coming of the Jesus Christ peace be upon him. This is the only prophet that will still step foot on earth.

 

[Riverwolf]

I like you. You seem like a nice person.

Thanks for your rebuttal. I might just be a "Homotheist", if thats a word, lol.

I can't believe that you don't have a favorite god. But, to be honest, I, too, don't have a favorite god either.

About how many gods do you believe in?

Do you consider yourself a god? I consider everyone, including Myself, a god.

I do not consider myself a God, because I have not, to my knowledge, been honestly deified to that status (and, frankly, don't want to be).

As to how many Gods I believe in... how many Stars are there?

 

[Etritonakin]

I didn't say that David was a begotten son, as a matter of fact, there is not begotten son.

The term "word" reveals the role that would be played by Jesus peace be upon him because he was the one God chose to share his message with humanity.

Jesus peace be upon him denied divinity many times in the bible explicitly. This writes off any implicit statement that can lead to thinking otherwise.

And lastly, there is no Creator but God. If you would refer to the original language of the bible, that fact would be clear in the specific verses you mentioned.

Remember that Jesus peace be upon him clearly denied divinity more than once throughout the bible.

I doubt we will ever reach any sort of agreement on many points, but for the sake of discussion...

From your point of view, then -according to the bible....

"David was a begotten son of God long before Jesus (according to the bible). Psalms A-V {2:7} I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee."

I disagree that Christ denied divinity -but did point out that he was not in authority -and that the Father was in authority. This is why we are instructed to pray to the Father, but in the name of Christ

The term "Word" is found among other words which clearly state that the being which became Christ was both with God and was God -and that all things were created by him and for him. So -I agree that there is one creator -God -as Christ said "I and my Father are one".

Christ also clearly stated that he was the one man that came down from heaven and would return there. Many believe their reward is heaven, but the meek shall inherit the earth (and beyond).

Joh_3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

In the old testament it is explained that many verses must be considered together to understand the full truth.

Isa 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
Isa 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.

 

[Sabour]

I doubt we will ever reach any sort of agreement on many points, but for the sake of discussion...

From your point of view, then -according to the bible....

"David was a begotten son of God long before Jesus (according to the bible). Psalms A-V {2:7} I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee."

I disagree that Christ denied divinity -but did point out that he was not in authority -and that the Father was in authority. This is why we are instructed to pray to the Father, but in the name of Christ

The term "Word" is found among other words which clearly state that the being which became Christ was both with God and was God -and that all things were created by him and for him. So -I agree that there is one creator -God -as Christ said "I and my Father are one".

Christ also clearly stated that he was the one man that came down from heaven and would return there. Many believe their reward is heaven, but the meek shall inherit the earth (and beyond).

Joh_3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

In the old testament it is explained that many verses must be considered together to understand the full truth.

Isa 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
Isa 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.

You got me wrong again.

I am not saying David is a begotten son of God.

I am saying that God doesn't begets nor is He begotten. There is not a begotten son.

 

[Etritonakin]

You got me wrong again.

I am not saying David is a begotten son of God.

I am saying that God doesn't begets nor is He begotten. There is not a begotten son.

I'm just stating my perspective. I understand that we do not share it.

I understand that we believe differently. God is God and we are men.

 

[George Manuel Oliveira]

Well, you definitely seem to have a Christ complex and are perhaps catching a bit of narcissism too. I hear that's going around in certain cultures. In fact, I believe I am Christ and deserve world power too. How can we tell who is who?

I only tell people on the internet that I am the Christ, nowadays.

When I first had My apotheosis, in the year 2008, I was telling many people in person that I am the Christ. Most of the people that knew Me for many years thought I went crazy, or whatever. But there were many people that believed I am the Christ, but these people could not help Me, either.

I realized, after a few years of telling people in person that I am Christ, that it is futile to tell people in person that I am the Christ, because they could not help My cause or agenda.

Most bloggers have some sort of influence, so I figured that maybe I could reach people with influence via the internet. But I was a blogger before, during, and after I first realized I am the Christ.

I am looking to spread My esoteric knowledge to the masses. I would love to be known as the Helper- the Prophet- the Christ- the Savior- the Messiah- the King, etc..

I just want to help My people- the whole world. I believe that My intentions could bring about a global prosperity.

I am looking for the open-mimded people that are searching for the living Savior- Me. My people are looking for Me, and I am eagerly searching for My people. Its about coming to an understanding of Me- the Lord of glory. But it is going to take much time to gather all of My people to Myself.

I just want to be known and respected, and I want to see My good plans to blossom like a spring flower. I want My children (the people of the world) to learn from Me, help others learn, so the global community can flourish. I want to make some radical changes, but its all for the good, and I don't want to harm anyone.

Its going to take time for My people to see My benevolence, humility, humanity, and My love, but I also have patience. I don't want anyone to be without their Savior, if they are looking for Me. I want to be the Friend to My people. I want to have a personal relationship with all of My witnesses. I want My witnesses to know Me on an intimate level, where I am not only the Lord, but their friend too.

I am alive, and that should be an infallible fact. There is plenty of proof of My existence. I am not based on ancient fairy tales, I am the Truth. When I am known on a global scale, people won't try and refute My existence. There is no empirical proof for Jesus. I will only try and be a guiding force for My people, the (suggestion) Maker. I am not some kind of dictator.

My people will come to Me, and I am always trying to reach My people.

~PEACE~

 

[Etritonakin]

I only tell people on the internet that I am the Christ, nowadays.

When I first had My apotheosis, in the year 2008, I was telling many people in person that I am the Christ. Most of the people that knew Me for many years thought I went crazy, or whatever. But there were many people that believed I am the Christ, but these people could not help Me, either.

I realized, after a few years of telling people in person that I am Christ, that it is futile to tell people in person that I am the Christ, because they could not help My cause or agenda.

Most bloggers have some sort of influence, so I figured that maybe I could reach people with influence via the internet. But I was a blogger before, during, and after I first realized I am the Christ.

I am looking to spread My esoteric knowledge to the masses. I would love to be known as the Helper- the Prophet- the Christ- the Savior- the Messiah- the King, etc..

I just want to help My people- the whole world. I believe that My intentions could bring about a global prosperity.

I am looking for the open-mimded people that are searching for the living Savior- Me. My people are looking for Me, and I am eagerly searching for My people. Its about coming to an understanding of Me- the Lord of glory. But it is going to take much time to gather all of My people to Myself.

I just want to be known and respected, and I want to see My good plans to blossom like a spring flower. I want My children (the people of the world) to learn from Me, help others learn, so the global community can flourish. I want to make some radical changes, but its all for the good, and I don't want to harm anyone.

Its going to take time for My people to see My benevolence, humility, humanity, and My love, but I also have patience. I don't want anyone to be without their Savior, if they are looking for Me. I want to be the Friend to My people. I want to have a personal relationship with all of My witnesses. I want My witnesses to know Me on an intimate level, where I am not only the Lord, but their friend too.

I am alive, and that should be an infallible fact. There is plenty of proof of My existence. I am not based on ancient fairy tales, I am the Truth. When I am known on a global scale, people won't try and refute My existence. There is no empirical proof for Jesus. I will only try and be a guiding force for My people, the (suggestion) Maker. I am not some kind of dictator.

My people will come to Me, and I am always trying to reach My people.

~PEACE~

That doesn't sound like a lot of power and glory.


You would be facing much resistance as well -such as when actual armies of entire kingdoms attack the returning Christ (with his army) and are put down....

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
Rev 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

Joe 2:1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
Joe 2:2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
Joe 2:3 A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
Joe 2:4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
Joe 2:5 Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.
Joe 2:6 Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.
Joe 2:7 They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks:
Joe 2:8 Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.
Joe 2:9 They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
Joe 2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
Joe 2:11 And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?

 

[George Manuel Oliveira]

That doesn't sound like a lot of power and glory.

Yes, you're right, I agree.

I am just the humble Prophet.

I don't have "a lot of power and glory". And I am not searching for "a lot of power and glory." Hypothetically, if I am ever the King of the world, I am going to give all of My power away to My global online government. If I am ever glorified, I am always going to try remain humble.

It is through My meekness that I am Myself. I never want to be some hubris know-it-all, who thinks that I am better then people. I am only human, and through My humanity, you all will get to know Me on a personal level.

I am not a cult leader, and I never want to be a cult leader. I am not looking to be worshipped, idolized, nor deified. I am looking to be known, heard, respected, and loved. I am not looking for people to follow Me in real life, because I don't want people to follow Me, I would rather remain incognito. But, I am looking for as many witnesses as possible, to add to My living credibility. When people are looking for the Savior, I just want to be considered as the Christ.

Even Jesus didn't have billions of followers while Jesus was alive. Now, billions of people claim to follow Jesus. I expect to gather many followers after I die, and My followers will believe in the Truth. My followers will help bring about global peace, and a prosperity that creates a living paradise. I just need to be Myself, and all will follow.

Right now, I am content with what I have. I don't need great power and glory to have the best of intentions. I am hoping to reach people with great power, so I can influence them to spread My notions. My intentions should define Me.

I don't need "a lot of power and glory" to reach people with influence. I would love for the people with influence to advocate for Me, but I can also advocate for Myself. My (online) testament will not be completed until after I die, so hopefully, I should have plenty of time.

But, yes, you're right, I agree; it doesn't seem like I have "a lot of power and glory", but God only knows the people that I will ultimately reach, touch, and inspire. And if I am known after I die, hopefully, I will inspire many billions of people. Only time will tell.

You would be facing much resistance as well -such as when actual armies of entire kingdoms attack the returning Christ (with his army) and are put down....

I have no intentions of battling any armies. I have no intentions of forming any armies that kill people. If anything, My global online army would be like a peace core, or the salvation army- where no one goes to war. Even if, one day, the whole world believes that I am the Christ, I would never advocate for violence, war, or hurting people in any way.

I do have plans to start a peaceful "knowledge revolution"; where the goal is to teach the whole world to be at peace with eachother. If only people could get over their religious differences, and celebrate what we all have in common. My "knowlege revolution" would bring cultures together, and I would expose the evil elites for their atrosities.

I do expect to face much resistance from all of the closed-minded people that are biased in their religion. I could have most of the solutions to most of the worlds problems, and some of the pharisees still would not consider Me as their Savior. I am not everyones Savior, I am only the Savior to My (elect) people- the open-minded people. At the same time, I don't expect it would be easy to reveal Myself as the Christ. Most Christians only want to believe in Jesus, and the Christians are skeptical of false christs, too.

But, no, I have no intentions of forming an army to battle, nor do I expect to ever battle any armies. Although, My global online government will have a military, but only to keep the peace. The military in My global online government will be to protect the people. My military will do a lot of teaching, and building new infrastructure.

But all this is only speculation, because none of this will happen any time soon, but maybe in the distant future. I plan on winning the world over through My love and compassion.

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
Rev 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

Joe 2:1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
Joe 2:2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
Joe 2:3 A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
Joe 2:4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
Joe 2:5 Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.
Joe 2:6 Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.
Joe 2:7 They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks:
Joe 2:8 Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.
Joe 2:9 They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
Joe 2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
Joe 2:11 And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?

Yes, the Bible says many nonsensical things; whats your point?

Please use your own words, instead of quoting an incredible source.

I don't believe in some of the Bible, but, at the same time, I believe in some of the Bible.

The Bible is not the most credible book, even some Christians don't take the Bible literally.

Anyways, I have some questions for you: did you watch My videos of Myself, on page # 4? And if you watched My videos of Myself, what do you think about Me?

EDIT- Also, what do you think about My intentions in post # 107, on page 11?

~PEACE~

 

[Straw Dog]

I realized, after a few years of telling people in person that I am Christ, that it is futile to tell people in person that I am the Christ, because they could not help My cause or agenda.

What is your agenda?

I am looking to spread My esoteric knowledge to the masses. I would love to be known as the Helper- the Prophet- the Christ- the Savior- the Messiah- the King, etc..

Well, you are definitely looking to spread something. I hope I don't catch your memes. It is that time of year.

I just want to help My people- the whole world. I believe that My intentions could bring about a global prosperity.

Or personal prosperity perhaps?

I just want to be known and respected, and I want to see My good plans to blossom like a spring flower. I want My children (the people of the world) to learn from Me, help others learn, so the global community can flourish. I want to make some radical changes, but its all for the good, and I don't want to harm anyone.

All change is radical, my friend. Everything in life that is beneficial may be harmful at some point or another within the process of becoming and fruition. You may not want to harm anyone, but you will.

My people will come to Me, and I am always trying to reach My people.

I don't understand why you have such trouble finding your people. Why does your god have worse communication technology than us?