Who Created Evolution?

[In_Deepthought]

The bible doesn't say the sun goes around the earth. It said God created the Sun moon and stars as lights in the firmament, and for signs and seasons. For their purpose of lights, signs and seasons the perspective of Earth as it.s center is the most practical persepective. Does God care if we know everything? Probably not.

No i didn't say it the church told the people it did because the church wanted to make the godly created earth the centre of the universe again more lies by the church of something they new nothing about but fitted the ideology that god created all.

 

[In_Deepthought]

The bible doesn't say the sun goes around the earth. It said God created the Sun moon and stars as lights in the firmament, and for signs and seasons. For their purpose of lights, signs and seasons the perspective of Earth as it.s center is the most practical persepective. Does God care if we know everything? Probably not.

please visit this to update your historical facts

Galileo Galilei - Wikipedia

 

[Kemosloby]

No i doesn't say it the church told the people it did because the church wanted to make the godly created earth the centre of the universe again more lies by the church of something they new nothing about but fitted the ideology that god created all.

No denying there is a difference between church leaders blabbing and scriptures. Since the Sun and Earths paths in the universe have little practical significance to us it's not mentioned in scripture, leaving a void which church leaders to fill with blab in order to glorify themselves as all knowing. So yeah, that is wrong of them to do.

 

[Kemosloby]

please visit this to update your historical facts

Galileo Galilei - Wikipedia

why not just say what you've got to say. Galileo came long after scriptures. I suppose your going to explain how Galileo used the stars for navigation. The focal point of his observation of the sun moon and stars is where he was located. It's easiest and most relevant to the reader to look at the universe from where they are standing.

 

[In_Deepthought]

why not just say what you've got to say. Galileo came long after scriptures. I suppose your going to explain how Galileo used the stars for navigation. The focal point of his observation of the sun moon and stars is where he was located. It's easiest and most relevant to the reader to look at the universe from where they are standing.

Ok so your saying he saw what he did from 1 location ie Italy, but has he been proven wrong have scientists proven that he was wrong when they were in different locations ?

I think you are now changing the subject away from your first comment that the bible did not say the sun went round the earth and my reply was the church did.

Don't try to say Galileo was wrong when you know he was and still is perfectly correct which of course has been proven today.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

What did everything evolve from? Can't you trace macroevolution back to the first life form? If not, why not?

rNA?

Oh, you mean it was heroin? I should've known.

I don't go around talking to flaming shrubbery, so you may want to rethink all the druggie talk.

Last time I checked my reference book was and still is the best selling, most read, most translated book on the planet. No other book even comes close.

Who cares? For the longest time, the Church tried to KEEP the book AWAY from us.

Any combination of evolution and creation would be possible with God.

Just not the origin you don't like.

I mean, I didn't realize God had to send His creation ideas to you for approval.

The bible doesn't say the sun goes around the earth.

It says the sun can stay still. It doesn't say God's miracle was the planet Earth staying still.

 

[Kemosloby]

rNA?


I don't go around talking to flaming shrubbery, so you may want to rethink all the druggie talk.


Who cares? For the longest time, the Church tried to KEEP the book AWAY from us.


Just not the origin you don't like.

I mean, I didn't realize God had to send His creation ideas to you for approval.


It says the sun can stay still. It doesn't say God's miracle was the planet Earth staying still.

What are you talking about...

 

[Kemosloby]

Ok so your saying he saw what he did from 1 location ie Italy, but has he been proven wrong have scientists proven that he was wrong when they were in different locations ?

I think you are now changing the subject away from your first comment that the bible did not say the sun went round the earth and my reply was the church did.

Don't try to say Galileo was wrong when you know he was and still is perfectly correct which of course has been proven today.

The church didn't write the bible. The official church is not even the church in the bible. In the bible, Christ himself is head of the church and all those who believe in him are the church. I understand that the world tells you those who call themselves the church are the church, most would say the pope is the head of it. Which someday could be proven just as wrong as the Sun revolving around the Earth.

 

[In_Deepthought]

why not just say what you've got to say. Galileo came long after scriptures. I suppose your going to explain how Galileo used the stars for navigation. The focal point of his observation of the sun moon and stars is where he was located. It's easiest and most relevant to the reader to look at the universe from where they are standing.

Hi,
Also are you saying by this comment that because scripter is older therefore it must be correct if it is then it is a ludicrous thing to say my grandfather was always older than me but wrong on many occasions whats age got to do with anything ????

 

[In_Deepthought]

The church didn't write the bible. The official church is not even the church in the bible. In the bible, Christ himself is head of the church and all those who believe in him are the church. I understand that the world tells you those who call themselves the church are the church, most would say the pope is the head of it. Which someday could be proven just as wrong as the Sun revolving around the Earth.

Hi,

Ok I accept and agree the church did not write the bible, but it follows the doctrine it "translates the meaning" of the bible and makes up it's own policies based on that.

It then uses those meanings to destroy others house arrest for Galileo, the Spanish inquisition the burning of witches nonacceptance of women, gays an others into it.

I understand that religion and church are different things so what should be is this follow your religion the way you see it in the "bible" in your own home and close down and get rid of organised religion to stop the head of churches trying to interfere in peoples lives and politics and love and marriage or no marriage like me "living in sin" for 9 years.
If i want to believe then i can if I don't want to then i can

 

[Kemosloby]

Hi,
Also are you saying by this comment that because scripter is older therefore it must be correct if it is then it is a ludicrous thing to say my grandfather was always older than me but wrong on many occasions whats age got to do with anything ????

Water is cleanest closest to its source....

 

[In_Deepthought]

Water is cleanest closest to its source....

**** is smellier closest to it's source ?????????

 

[Etritonakin]

No, not Darwin. God created evolution. Darwin may have noticed some things like cross breeding and adaptation, called it evolution, and after a few puffs of the wacky weed, decided people came from monkeys. But for whatever part of evolution is true, God created at the time of creation. God created both the visible and invisible. The systems of the life cycle are a part of the creation; adaptation, survival of the fittest, luck, winning. The things people call evolution.

Collosians 1:16 For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.

God created the DNA-based "evolution" which produces life forms on earth (arguably, obviously), but evolution in its broadest sense is simply change and development -so it can be said (even based on that which is written in scripture) that God evolves.

Ironically, pure "evolution" may apply more directly to God than man.
The existence of man -with the potential to become like God -is written to have been determined before the physical universe was brought into being, but none would have thought to cause God to exist.
God would simply have been that which existed -and is now that which exists.
God would not have created his own existence, but scripture does support the idea that God developed -at least to some degree.

If of the increase of the government of God there will be no end, it begs the question of how little was once governed.

If that increase is by complex arrangement of that which has always existed, it begs the question of how simple it once was.

It does not seem logical from our perspective for God to have always existed as a complex creator -but God developing from the most simple state possible of that which has always existed actually answers the questions of omnipotence, omniscience, etc., and still allows for his being "eternal".

Just some thoughts -don't really know.

 

[Kemosloby]

God created the DNA-based "evolution" which produces life forms on earth (arguably, obviously), but evolution in its broadest sense is simply change and development -so it can be said (even based on that which is written in scripture) that God evolves.

Ironically, pure "evolution" may apply more directly to God than man.
The existence of man -with the potential to become like God -is written to have been determined before the physical universe was brought into being, but none would have thought to cause God to exist.
God would simply have been that which existed -and is now that which exists.
God would not have created his own existence, but scripture does support the idea that God developed -at least to some degree.

If of the increase of the government of God there will be no end, it begs the question of how little was once governed.

If that increase is by complex arrangement of that which has always existed, it begs the question of how simple it once was.

It does not seem logical from our perspective for God to have always existed as a complex creator -but God developing from the most simple state possible of that which has always existed actually answers the questions of omnipotence, omniscience, etc., and still allows for his being "eternal".

Just some thoughts -don't really know.

No, I don't believe it does mean God evolves. God created all of creation and put it under Christ, except for God himself is above it all. If evolution is part of creation then God is not subject to evolution.

 

[In_Deepthought]

God created the DNA-based "evolution" which produces life forms on earth (arguably, obviously), but evolution in its broadest sense is simply change and development -so it can be said (even based on that which is written in scripture) that God evolves.

Ironically, pure "evolution" may apply more directly to God than man.
The existence of man -with the potential to become like God -is written to have been determined before the physical universe was brought into being, but none would have thought to cause God to exist.
God would simply have been that which existed -and is now that which exists.
God would not have created his own existence, but scripture does support the idea that God developed -at least to some degree.

If of the increase of the government of God there will be no end, it begs the question of how little was once governed.

If that increase is by complex arrangement of that which has always existed, it begs the question of how simple it once was.

It does not seem logical from our perspective for God to have always existed as a complex creator -but God developing from the most simple state possible of that which has always existed actually answers the questions of omnipotence, omniscience, etc., and still allows for his being "eternal".

Just some thoughts -don't really know.

Hi,

I understand what you are saying however I will always say that I find it amazing that 20-30 years ago and still today creationists have denied evolution to the point of violence. Now evolution is fact and that Darwinian theories have been proven now the religious accept it but twist it as to be a thing created by god?

This kind of acceptance by believers is amazing but it shows a vital point, Religion is trying to hold on to its believers so hard that it is willing to throw away its old beliefs and replace them with proven scientific fact but until science can prove everything religion will cling on to the basics who, what or how, created us and the universe .

Science changes based on new data and understanding religion changes because of older beliefs have been proven wrong.

I would love to be a fly on the wall in a church a 100 years from now and see how twisted it will be compared to what religion is today !

 

[Jeremiahcp]

No, not Darwin. God created evolution. Darwin may have noticed some things like cross breeding and adaptation, called it evolution, and after a few puffs of the wacky weed, decided people came from monkeys. But for whatever part of evolution is true, God created at the time of creation. God created both the visible and invisible. The systems of the life cycle are a part of the creation; adaptation, survival of the fittest, luck, winning. The things people call evolution.

Collosians 1:16 For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.

I agree 100% Zeus created evolution.

 

[BilliardsBall]

No, not Darwin. God created evolution. Darwin may have noticed some things like cross breeding and adaptation, called it evolution, and after a few puffs of the wacky weed, decided people came from monkeys. But for whatever part of evolution is true, God created at the time of creation. God created both the visible and invisible. The systems of the life cycle are a part of the creation; adaptation, survival of the fittest, luck, winning. The things people call evolution.

Collosians 1:16 For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.

Evolution happens, but has little explanatory power in "proving" macro-evolution.

 

[oldbadger]

Not in it's entirety, only the parts that are true.

You see? We are in accord, I only want to believe those parts that are true.

I do not believe people came from monkeys.

Well, as we discover more planets with water, so our level of interest in other life beyond Earth increases. And since intelligent life may have existed billions of years before us, the chance that aliens came here and genetically modified apes is becoming less laughable?
Are you laughing? That's actually more likely that a resurrection ..... even an atheist might consider that.

I do believe Apes and chimpanzees have a common ancestor, as do pugs and wolves. And even if extreme evolution is possible, so is Gods power of creation. Any combination of evolution and creation would be possible with God.

There you go...... evolution.... possible.

Genesis describes some of both, given the nature of words carrying more than one meaning, there seem to be some word games going on to keep us guessing. So I guess it just doesn't matter, but I do not believe people came from monkeys, Or that all life crawled from a primordial ooze.

Well, even the bible records prophets like Elijah being taken up into heaven in a 'chariot of fire', so folks might choose to decide that aliens did come here after all..... and that humans are partly descened from monkeys.

I believe it is a combination of creation and evolution.

There you are...... you 'believe'..... that's ok, but if Creation is taught in schools near you, I do hope that teachers are presenting it as a 'belief' and not fact.

Now.... you quoted from Colossians....... that must be a very important passage to you..... so who wrote that, then?

 

[In_Deepthought]

Evolution happens, but has little explanatory power in "proving" macro-evolution.

Hi,

your quote:-

Are you perfect? "If you're reading this, you're not too close." Jesus Christ, died for our sin, our shame. He rose so that when we trust Him we receive eternal life.

is ridiculous here is a quote from Richard Dawkins on your belief in your quote:-

“It’s a horrible idea that God, this paragon of wisdom and knowledge and power, couldn’t think of a better way to forgive us our sins than to come down to Earth in his alter ego as his son and have himself hideously tortured and executed so that he could forgive himself.”

 

[Kemosloby]

You see? We are in accord, I only want to believe those parts that are true.


Well, as we discover more planets with water, so our level of interest in other life beyond Earth increases. And since intelligent life may have existed billions of years before us, the chance that aliens came here and genetically modified apes is becoming less laughable?
Are you laughing? That's actually more likely that a resurrection ..... even an atheist might consider that.


There you go...... evolution.... possible.


Well, even the bible records prophets like Elijah being taken up into heaven in a 'chariot of fire', so folks might choose to decide that aliens did come here after all..... and that humans are partly descened from monkeys.


There you are...... you 'believe'..... that's ok, but if Creation is taught in schools near you, I do hope that teachers are presenting it as a 'belief' and not fact.

Now.... you quoted from Colossians....... that must be a very important passage to you..... so who wrote that, then?

A man inspired by an alien from heaven.speaking to him telepathically.via the Holy Spirit. Where did your idea of space monkeys originate?