74x12
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No, but you are speaking English so I assumed it mattered at least a little bit.
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Who is God?
- Thread starter John D. Brey
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Ellen Brown
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Any name our culture, or any culture has for Creator, or Master of all is valid. I'm an Abrahamic Religionist and one of my frustrations is that so called "authorities on religion" put too fine a point on what we actually know; assuming to explain things that none of our "Books" define. This will set some people howling in derision. In the Christian Old Testament, loosely translated by me, it says in Micah 6:8 "What does your God require of you but to do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly with your God (G_d, Allah SWT, Jehovah ...)
As to WHO "he" is, most our documents were written by men who today, I would call misogynists. Why didn't women write or get credit for some of that? It is because the same old men still blame Eve for the Apple incident, and I'd think they would get over that. After all, Aisha (One of Muhammad's wives) did get credit for compiling his valuable notes. To mean that if she had not done that, then Islam would likely not exist. And, I am pretty sure that key elements from Islam and Christianity came from Judaism, but so Jews have no reason to be smug, much of that came from Zoroastrianism, and Yazidism.
A rational view of our Creator does not define Him very much, but I will respect the view that He is who he wants to be. He can be "the Mind of God" expressed in the matter of the Universe, and he can be manifested in the person of the Messiah, Jesus the Christ, and Issa PBUH, the servant of the most high.
As to WHO "he" is, most our documents were written by men who today, I would call misogynists. Why didn't women write or get credit for some of that? It is because the same old men still blame Eve for the Apple incident, and I'd think they would get over that. After all, Aisha (One of Muhammad's wives) did get credit for compiling his valuable notes. To mean that if she had not done that, then Islam would likely not exist. And, I am pretty sure that key elements from Islam and Christianity came from Judaism, but so Jews have no reason to be smug, much of that came from Zoroastrianism, and Yazidism.
A rational view of our Creator does not define Him very much, but I will respect the view that He is who he wants to be. He can be "the Mind of God" expressed in the matter of the Universe, and he can be manifested in the person of the Messiah, Jesus the Christ, and Issa PBUH, the servant of the most high.
Ellen Brown
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"Ancient English" originated around 1200 AD.
John D. Brey
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. . . There's almost a misogynist dogmatism and preachiness to your deconstruction of misogyny and theological dogmatism. In other words, reading your statement makes me feel like I might be trading a god of one name for a god with another, perhaps feminine, name.
John
Ellen Brown
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My apologies. I have had very harsh experiences at the hands of dysfunctional males. Happily, there have also been lovely, pleasing, caring men in my life also. Is it possible that God (Allah SWT to me) is beyond He, or She? Matt 22:30 says:"In the Kingdom of Heaven, people will neither marry, nor be given in marriage. In this respect, they shall be like the angels in Heaven." Does this imply that there is no gender? I wait to be told by the one who knows, God.
sandy whitelinger
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God's real name is...
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
...sandy whitelinger
Ellen Brown
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The Jews say his name can not be spoken or written(?) I think. Muslims say that God has at least 100 names. Walking humbly by his side, he has not told me ...
John D. Brey
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. . . I've found through experience that people with over 10,000 messages have nothing to say so they say it a lot as compensation. . . Boredom and libido lead to thoughtless loquaciousness.
John
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sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
Huh?
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
All the angels are male.
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
Not a lot of people know this but I'm famous.
John D. Brey
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sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
Circumcised alsomeans to draw a figure around another figure without cutting into it. In this manner, all of the names just define in greater clarity the figure that is not described except by its boundry.
Jesster
Axe Elf
Prophet
Sandy, you and I have altogether different ideas about circumcision.
:::giggles:::
ThePainefulTruth
Romantic-Cynic
Truth.
Who is God?
Our Creator! And He sustains us, our every minute of life.
ronandcarol
Our Creator! And He sustains us, our every minute of life.
ronandcarol
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
John D. Brey
Well-Known Member
Truth
is indivisible, hence it cannot recognize
itself;
anyone
who
wants
to
recognize
it must
be a
lie.
itself;
anyone
who
wants
to
recognize
it must
be a
lie.
Franz Kafka.
God is truth. And since truth is indivisible, so is God. And since what's indivisible is unrecognizable to itself, God can't have truthful self-knowledge without dividing into duality. Which segues into the early chapters of the Torah where the Elohim confront Adam and take to commanding him about what he shall and shant, can an can't, do or not do. ---- The angels, as messengers of God, see themselves as his arm, as his voice, as his personification in creation.
A careful reader of the Torah, perhaps a reader trying to peer between the lines and letters, thinks they see Adam, like Moses after him, wondering about how he can know if the angels, as messengers of God, are really completely faithful to God (Ex. 33:23)? Adam, like Moses, later, realizes the paradox that if the angels are perfect messengers of God, they're superfluous. Why use angelic messengers if they're an exact facsimile of God himself?
The mediation of angels, as God's messengers, told Adam, and Moses, something it should tell any thoughtful man or woman. E.g., if angels are faithful messengers why use mediation in the first, and last, place? What do the angels provide God by intervening between himself and his creation? If God created the angels as his messengers, his arm, why could he not manifest directly and without mediation? More importantly, if the angels are completely faithful messengers and mediators (manifestations), then why would they not be themselves worthy of worship since they are the only direct manifestation of God himself (Acts 7:37-43)?
John
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