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Who Is Lucifer?
- Thread starter ThirtyThree
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You are the reason I never forget to laugh.
Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
Demonslayer
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Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
Mkays I see.
Lucifer, mentioned in Isaiah, was a prince of Babylon.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Lucifer is just a name, just as Jesus, or whatever god-man you follow, he is the other side of the same coin.
ThirtyThree
Well-Known Member
Lucifer is a title, as I use it. I do not use it as a name at all.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Can I ask, a title for what ?.
Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
I call him Lucifer since that is his name. I don't really like calling him Satan since the christians gave him that name because they think of him as someone evil. I have gotten in debates with christians on google plus that they got pissed at me because I kept calling him Lucifer. They said that the name Lucifer isn't his name anymore.
ThirtyThree
Well-Known Member
"Lucifer" has never been His name, unless you are referring to a minor Greco Roman deity, which you are not.
In fact, "Lucifer", in the King James version of the Bible refers to a human king, not a fallen malach. While I am still uncertain if Isaiah is referencing a spirit behind the King or not, it is clear the term "Lucifer" is just a title. It refers to Venus, The Morning Star.
Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
We all have different views on who Lucifer is.
ThirtyThree
Well-Known Member
If you are claiming Lucifer is His name and using the Bible as your source, you are just perpetuating a lie.
Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
And how so?
ThirtyThree
Well-Known Member
Because "Lucifer" is mentioned only once and in only one translation of the Bible, two if you count the new version. The King James and New King James Version. The term, "Haylel" is generally translated "Day Star" or "Morning Star". In both, "Lucifer" is a title, and applied to a human king.
Demonslayer
Well-Known Member
What about Beelzebub, that's a good name.
Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
Some people believe the Beelzebub is Lucifer but I believe they are different beings.
ThirtyThree
Well-Known Member
Here, read this.
Lucifer is literally nothing. It is a metaphor of criticism directed to the king of Babylon in Isaiah. Jesus himself is often referred to as that, and there are like 2-3 "Saint Lucifer of Wherever".
If I were to say, "the light bringer in Latin" it would be "lucifer" the word is still used in in catholic masses. Usually as, "luciferi" though.
Also, in Latin there is the problem... Lucifer as an adjective applied to Venus rising in the dawn. Lucifer as a noun applied to the light cast from the moon.That meaning is largely lost on modern folks, but a quick study of Latin would reveal that.
Generally, the Christian understanding of the word Lucifer is not authentic. It is borrowed from Dante's Inferno, etc... It's a revision of the history, and basically inaccurate...
Phosphorus and Lucifer are related, regardless of biblical connotations.
Basically, outside of Greco-Roman revival paganism Lucifer is a phantom outside of a daemon in historical ceremonial magic text.
Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
I kinda do disagree that "Lucifer" is a "title". We all have our own opinions. Just saying.
ThirtyThree
Well-Known Member
How can you disagree with fact? Are you using another book other than the King James Bible then, to get this term, "Lucifer", which you insist is a name?