Who Said the Bible is True?

[JoStories]

God said the Bible was true. I asked Him a long time ago.

Strangely, my mother says something quite similar. I understand that you believe this for you but you do realize that it is self fulfilling, no? My experiences and how I view them are much the same. I accept that of myself and do not try to make excuses or 'prove' what I know to be unprovable. Bright blessings. Jo

 

[Unification]

Beautifully spoken and I totally agree. We can share our experiences and discuss the differences we might have in how we view or interpret things. In this life, I prefer to have peace and try to enact with others in the same manner. Bright blessings. Jo

Many blessings, Jo.
Oneness, love, and peace leads to an abundant life for ourselves and others indeed.
Beyond the physcial, we are all one and the same.

 

[JoStories]

Uplifting and enlightening does not equate to true.

For you, perhaps but for me, it is. I have no need to prove this to you. It amounts to a rhetorical and tedious discussion, IMO. Truth, by the way, is subjective for the most part, unless one is discussing the laws of physics, etc. if it is truth you want that is scientific, why are you on a forum regarding religion?

 

[JoStories]

Many blessings, Jo.
Oneness, love, and peace leads to an abundant life for ourselves and others indeed.
Beyond the physcial, we are all one and the same.

Amen to that friend. I don't agree with your faith, so we are clear but my own path, which is largely eastern; specifically Buddhist, rests on similar tenets. For me, God is God to all faiths. May you continue to enjoy yours.

 

[JoStories]

So you're admitting you've got nothing to present? You've got nothing to show that your position is reasonable yet you still believe it? I hope you can see the utter irrationality of holding such beliefs.

For you, they are irrational but for myself and unification, they are not. I do not attempt to 'prove' anything to you. I have no interest in mindless endeavors when it is clear you have not got an open mind. I wish you peace in your journey.

 

[Unification]

Uplifting and enlightening does not equate to true.

Irrational. You have objectively shown in your own knowledge with pictures that uplifting equates to true. It occurs. It happens from the brain, no?

 

[Unification]

Amen to that friend. I don't agree with your faith, so we are clear but my own path, which is largely eastern; specifically Buddhist, rests on similar tenets. For me, God is God to all faiths. May you continue to enjoy yours.

That's the beauty of it, pieces of the truth in every religion. Buddhism is beautiful. All of Buddhism is true to yourself and that's your own unique experience, and that's wonderful. I was just talking to a Hindu at work earlier. We were talking about Christianity and Hindu and coming to common ground.
Brahman/Abraham Christ/Krishna 7chakras in the Christianity book of Revelation and others, reincarnation, etc.
It's like the Western Hemisphere of brain and eastern hemisphere brain with the pituitary and Pineal glands as the head chakras of energy.
With the two hemispheres becoming one (divine marriage/union)
From a physical perspective, the western world and eastern world of religions combined equate to one truth.
Also from a spiritual and physical perspective, the western and eastern hemispheres of the human brain and their qualities are very similar to the literal western world and eastern world of religion. (The behavior of the human)
The left brain east brain and western beliefs eastern beliefs.
My roots were the doctrines of Christianity which I left because of irrationality. I don't claim a particular religion. I just am.
Many blessings, friend.

 

[Cephus]

For you, perhaps but for me, it is. I have no need to prove this to you. It amounts to a rhetorical and tedious discussion, IMO. Truth, by the way, is subjective for the most part, unless one is discussing the laws of physics, etc. if it is truth you want that is scientific, why are you on a forum regarding religion?

This isn't about you. It isn't about me. It's about reality and that's the same for both of us. Beliefs either reflect reality or they do not. If they reflect reality, then they are correct. If they do not reflect reality, they are wrong. How you feel about it has absolutely no bearing on whether your beliefs are factually true or not. What is happening here is not an opinion. People don't get to say that their opinion is that the speed of light is 186,282 miles per second in a vacuum. That's just what it is. Someone's opinion that it's 42 miles an hour is simply wrong, no matter how emotionally attached they might be to their view.

Religion is no different, it doesn't get it's own set of rules. Religion isn't making claims like "I like vanilla ice cream", it is making statements about the fundamental characteristics of the universe. Whether you like it or not, that's what's being argued here. Is there a God? Is there a supernatural? Is there an afterlife? These are not just subjective opinions, they are fundamental statements about the way reality works. Anyone who cannot rationally justify their beliefs about reality is simply wrong and cannot be taken seriously.

It doesn't make a damn bit of difference how that makes you feel either.

 

[Cephus]

For you, they are irrational but for myself and unification, they are not. I do not attempt to 'prove' anything to you. I have no interest in mindless endeavors when it is clear you have not got an open mind. I wish you peace in your journey.

There is no "for us". Reality is what it is for everyone, like it or not. You don't get to decide that you don't like gravity to be

, therefore you're going to believe something else. You'd just be wrong. Just because you have no interest doesn't stop you from being wrong. Open-mindedness doesn't mean that you just let your brain go on a vacation, which seemingly, a lot of theists have done.

 

[Cephus]

Irrational. You have objectively shown in your own knowledge with pictures that uplifting equates to true. It occurs. It happens from the brain, no?

Yes, continue to dance around your own failures, I'll continue to laugh.

 

[Desert Snake]

Yes, continue to dance around your own failures, I'll continue to laugh.

Nope, incorrect.

 

[Unification]

This isn't about you. It isn't about me. It's about reality and that's the same for both of us. Beliefs either reflect reality or they do not. If they reflect reality, then they are correct. If they do not reflect reality, they are wrong. How you feel about it has absolutely no bearing on whether your beliefs are factually true or not. What is happening here is not an opinion. People don't get to say that their opinion is that the speed of light is 186,282 miles per second in a vacuum. That's just what it is. Someone's opinion that it's 42 miles an hour is simply wrong, no matter how emotionally attached they might be to their view.

Religion is no different, it doesn't get it's own set of rules. Religion isn't making claims like "I like vanilla ice cream", it is making statements about the fundamental characteristics of the universe. Whether you like it or not, that's what's being argued here. Is there a God? Is there a supernatural? Is there an afterlife? These are not just subjective opinions, they are fundamental statements about the way reality works. Anyone who cannot rationally justify their beliefs about reality is simply wrong and cannot be taken seriously.

It doesn't make a damn bit of difference how that makes you feel either.

It's irrational for the natural one to even discuss an afterlife or death because according to them, they have never experienced such. All one is consciously aware of is being conscious and living. Can't be conscious of being unconscious.

There is physical reality of this world, and there is that AND beyond the natural eye's perception.

One believes in air, wind, and dark matter without seeing physically. That would be irrational also to the rational.

 

[Unification]

Yes, continue to dance around your own failures, I'll continue to laugh.

Very genuinely happy that's uplifting to you.

 

[Cephus]

Nope, incorrect.

So you can prove you're right? Oh wait...

 

[Desert Snake]

So you can prove you're right? Oh wait...

Neither can you.

 

[Cephus]

Neither can you.

I have nothing to prove, I'm not making any claims. You are. Enough with the absurd logical fallacies, either put up or shut up.

 

[Unification]

There is no "for us". Reality is what it is for everyone, like it or not. You don't get to decide that you don't like gravity to be

, therefore you're going to believe something else. You'd just be wrong. Just because you have no interest doesn't stop you from being wrong. Open-mindedness doesn't mean that you just let your brain go on a vacation, which seemingly, a lot of theists have done.

One cannot see gravity. It is invisible. Believing in something not seen is irrational. The effects, however... Can be known.

 

[Cephus]

One cannot see gravity. It is invisible. Believing in something not seen is irrational. The effects, however... Can be known.

You can still test gravity objectively. Now provide a single objective test we can make for the supernatural or mysticism. Produce evidence for just one of those effects that can be shown to actually belong to the supernatural or mysticism. Just one. I'll wait.

 

[Unification]

You can still test gravity objectively. Now provide a single objective test we can make for the supernatural or mysticism. Produce evidence for just one of those effects that can be shown to actually belong to the supernatural or mysticism. Just one. I'll wait.

Theoretically. Now combine quantum mechanics and general relativity. Which essentially, also does not matter objectively or rationally in any way because it won't change the world. If the universe is one, the human can be one.
Gravity itself is supernatural. Your life is supernatural. Genuine and pure love is supernatural. Complete oneness and peace is supernatural. Higher consciousness is supernatural.
Test yourself, deny yourself with a still, open mind and wait, as long as it takes.

 

[Unification]

You can still test gravity objectively. Now provide a single objective test we can make for the supernatural or mysticism. Produce evidence for just one of those effects that can be shown to actually belong to the supernatural or mysticism. Just one. I'll wait.

I'm just being and creating as everyone else. My experience is my experience. I live in the now, not as one making it more complex than what it needs to be by the carnal mind and ego that has been conditioned by religion or education, self intent, reputation, or other aspects that saturate and hinder.
God is unmanifested and manifested, and all and in all. The still and present moment is my own objective truth, the clearness of mind and higher conscious and awareness to see reality magnified significantly, combined spiritually with physically, and living an abundant beautiful life void of all negativity. Infinite potential and creation, no limitation.
God cannot be represented by any form of things.
Sum total of everything.

The cerebral cortex (which is also in scripture quite often) cannot be stimulatively mapped in any place of it to cause any human to "believe in anything" or "choose." The conscious and mind have a divine power independent of the brain.

How can mere matter originate consciousness and mind?

Since everything is physical to one and visibly tangible objectively, including feelings, thoughts, intelligence/knowledge, conscious, mind... Imperfect humans living in a perfect universe, I challenge you to gather all of the matter and build a human. I'll wait as long as you'd like.
I'll make it easier, since conscious is physical and matter to the physically objective, I'll bring you a dead human and you can revive them. Just build the conscious. It's physcial, and then electrically stimulate them back into life.