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Whose 'logic' is it anyway?

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Unless the stories didn't happen. Then whatever picture you had formed, even if it made sense, is still wrong.

Parables are not factual stories.....check new testament.

Place yourself in the storyline...as character.
Do it again...different character.
and again as bystander...

Eventually you'll bet the idea.

When dealing with true life events the same technique can be applied...for sympathy.

The parables are instruction for mind and heart.
 

The Wizard

Active Member
In the words of the bible, Faith defies logic and logic denies faith.

Expansion: Faith and beliefs can defy other people's logic. Logic can only defy faith and beliefs not used rationally or wisely. A person can use both faith and logic rationally. The only wedge between the two is that with which comes from ones own perspective and degree of knowledge towards that area. For others, there is no wedge... and they don't require it..... imo.
 

PolyHedral

Superabacus Mystic
Expansion: Faith and beliefs can defy other people's logic. Logic can only defy faith and beliefs not used rationally or wisely. A person can use both faith and logic rationally. The only wedge between the two is that with which comes from ones own perspective and degree of knowledge towards that area. For others, there is no wedge... and they don't require it..... imo.
One cannot use religious faith logically. It is irrational to believe any statement without evidence.
 

The Wizard

Active Member
One cannot use religious faith logically. It is irrational to believe any statement without evidence.
That may make sense to you on the surface and from an illogical standpoint. But, faith and beliefs can add values and enhance many aspects of a person's life. Tell me, if a person uses faith and beliefs the right way to make their life better, how is it not logical? How is that not being rational?

You seem to be missing a few memos. Faith and beliefs don't require evidence. That's why they are known as a belief in the first place... Are you sure what you are saying is logical my friend?
 

PolyHedral

Superabacus Mystic
Tell me, if a person uses faith and beliefs the right way to make their life better, how is it not logical? How is that not being rational?
Because whether or not it makes you happy has nothing to do with whether it is correct.

You seem to be missing a few memos. Faith and beliefs don't require evidence. That's why they are known as a belief in the first place... Are you sure what you are saying is logical my friend?
Yes. It is irrational to believe any given statement is true without supporting evidence.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
One cannot use religious faith logically. It is irrational to believe any statement without evidence.

Belief by evidence only?

That's not the definition of faith.

Logical pursuit of something greater than yourself?...religion.
Pursuit of nothing greater...for lack of faith?.....rational?
 

Looncall

Well-Known Member
Belief by evidence only?

That's not the definition of faith.

Logical pursuit of something greater than yourself?...religion.
Pursuit of nothing greater...for lack of faith?.....rational?

That's the point, isn't it?
 
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