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Why America can't really win a nuclear war with Russia

Truth in love

Well-Known Member
To sum it all up it's called "Continuity of Government."

This is the policy that is codified in law by the US government. The policy is simple. That the government of America must go on at all costs. So they put the government ahead of the welfare of the people.

You don't have bunkers or anything to defend you in major American cities in case of bombing. You're all slated as collateral damage. So America can absorb a nuclear first strike and then strike back against Russia but the people of America will be ashes already.

On the other hand Russia has in place in major cities like Moscow bunkers designed to house all the people possible. So the Russians actually care more about their people than American political and military elites do. Yet they have way less money than us and still make it happen.

So I think Americans cheering on WW3 are being very stupid to be honest. You cheer on your own destruction so your ruling elites can survive and maybe they'll be able to avenge your deaths on Russia ... maybe not. Maybe all their plans fail. Either way; you'll be dead.

So don't be an American idiot like that song says ... instead be a smart American.

What we need is to return to government "for and by the people" instead of "government for the government".

It's all backwards.

Instead of spending so much on new ships and planes that allow our rulers to have force projection around the world. Why don't we take that defense budget and put bunkers in every major city and make sure we have the best missile defense system and the best defenses available for the people against WMDs like chemical and biological attacks? And we should harden the grid against EMP attacks. That's what our defense budget could feasibly do if we really had government for and by the people.

We already have the very best ships and planes and helicopters etc. in the world that money can possibly buy. Yet they keep making new and better ones like we're only competing with ourselves or something. No one can really touch us in those areas but it all means nothing if we just let our cities be nuked into oblivion.

This is how you know your defense budget and military are for the rulers and not for you. Probably so they can start another war with another little country that doesn't want to do business and make them more money. So wake up.

There, that's my rant. I think it's our duty as Americans to call out nonsense like this. If I'm wrong let me know. Anyone know this topic?

There is no winning a war fought with nukes.
 

Truth in love

Well-Known Member
Nah.
But I don't find it worth taking precautions
as extensive as creating a bunker.

Colonizing Mars in this century or even the next
is the stupidest idea since mint chocolate covered
pig chuckles.
Urban Dictionary: chuckle

I used to think mars would be a good idea, a bit out there but great. . Then did a little digging on the gravity and baring some magical gravity generator we can't ever be outside on mars. My Everest has a more life sustaining climate.
 

amorphous_constellation

Well-Known Member
Anyone see the recent little public service announcement video from new york? They seem to make it sound like you can ride the thing out like a rain storm. How can we be sure that the video is sending a responsible message? What do they mean by 'don't ask me why.' The event they are describing really can't be allowed to occur, and it occurs for reasons. 'Don't ask me why' does not seem acceptable. If there something going on in the world that could make this happen, I think the public needs to be concerned, and figure out 'why'
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Anyone see the recent little public service announcement video from new york? They seem to make it sound like you can ride the thing out like a rain storm. How can we be sure that the video is sending a responsible message? What do they mean by 'don't ask me why.' The event they are describing really can't be allowed to occur, and it occurs for reasons. 'Don't ask me why' does not seem acceptable. If there something going on in the world that could make this happen, I think the public needs to be concerned, and figure out 'why'

Yeah, I saw that video:


I remember similar instructions being disseminated back in the day, about what to do in case of a nuclear attack. We had airraid drills where we'd have to go into the basement and hold our heads against the wall. Or sometimes we'd have to go under our desks and cover our eyes.

Of course, fallout shelters were marked and were far more ubiquitous back then. Maybe they need to bring those back.

One thing in the video that seems odd is that they tell people to stay tuned and follow the media. You can sign up to receive emergency alerts, but it seems extremely unlikely that anyone would be able to send out text messages after a nuclear war.
 

amorphous_constellation

Well-Known Member
One thing in the video that seems odd is that they tell people to stay tuned and follow the media. You can sign up to receive emergency alerts, but it seems extremely unlikely that anyone would be able to send out text messages after a nuclear war.

I suppose the 'emp' effect may come into play somehow, in this situation. I don't know if that occurs solely with a separate kind of explosion, or if a regular nuke will do that anyway. In any case, I don't want to think about it much more at the moment. It's a rather gloomy thing to contemplate
 
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