Why Anti-Christian Posts are a Pain

[Buttons*]

It's not different. I have no tolerance for either.

The thing that makes the former even more annoying however is that they are often blind to the fact that they're perpetuating the same behavior that they say they've rejected.

well that's what people get for holding onto things instead of just dropping them

 

[doppelganger]

The thing that makes the former even more annoying however is that they are often blind to the fact that they're perpetuating the same behavior that they say they've rejected.

I agree that makes it more annoying.

 

[!Fluffy!]

yeah, but everyone's been attacked by one extremist or another

That's the point. It's not right, I tell you! Not right!

i say just drop the subject all together and just work on making yourself a better person

Now buttons how can I do that when I have already reached the peak of my perfection??

:angel2:

instead of complaining about being attacked....

I guess now would be the time to tell you, I have a God-given right to complain about being attacked.

but for some, that's just too difficult i suppose

I'm just not in the mood today I suppose. After the laughing Christian thread I got my dander up

now I'll have to go take another to get all smoooth again.

 

[Buttons*]

That's the point. It's not right, I tell you! Not right!

no, but beyotching about it isnt going to help anyone

Now buttons how can I do that when I have already reached the peak of my perfection??

:angel2:

i'd consult the Bible

I guess now would be the time to tell you, I have a God-given right to complain about being attacked.

It's a God given right to complain? I put a question to you: "What would Yeshua do?"

 

[Kcnorwood]

Like kiwimac said, some christians love to go around attacking others & telling them how they should live. It seems latley that people are attacking back & they don't like it. Yes, every belief has been jumped on.. maybe it's just thire turn.

 

[doppelganger]

Claims by anyone of having a "true" ideology, when coupled with a refusal to listen to or consider the perspectives behind others' expressions, are all the same kind of pain to me.

 

[Buttons*]

Like kiwimac said, some christians love to go around attacking others & telling them how they should live. It seems latley that people are attacking back & they don't like it. Yes, every belief has been jumped on.. maybe it's just thire turn.

nah, maybe it's NO ONES turn, maybe we should just not make an issue out of it and realize that everyone goes through similar chit

 

[!Fluffy!]

I've read much more demeaning things from both "sides," and little of it was as well-written.

so have I. It doesn't make it okay.

But aside from that, telling people that they are under the sway of evil demons and must "believe" in the sacred words to be saved from an eternity in Hell is no less inconsiderate.

Go tell it to Jerry Falwell or somebody, it's not done here much. And never by ME.

There's a fine line that depends entirely on the perspective. The Christian accusing everyone else of being deluded sinners will always subjectively believe that he or she is extolling rather than attacking. One might have a difficult time seeing the problem if one agrees with the essential sentiment being expressed (even if one knows to be more tactful in presenting such extolling/attacking ).

it's really not that hard to differentiate between the two

 

[Buttons*]

Claims by anyone of having a "true" ideology, when coupled with a refusal to listen to or consider the perspectives behind others' expressions, are all the same kind of pain to me.

amen brother

:cupcake: cupcake?

 

[doppelganger]

Go tell it to Jerry Falwell or somebody, it's not done here much. And never by ME.

So it does happen, right? Just not by you.

So why do you take it so personally?

The more interesting question is why are there so many people who feel that way about Christianity?

That's a question a "Christian" could really learn something from, I think.

it's really not that hard to differentiate between the two

Perhaps that's the very problem. It's not hard for the other "side" either.

 

[gnomon]

Attacking Christianity is easy. And hardly does it ever require much reason. It's even pathetic when the attacks come from those who "feel" the historical persecution of others. Then it just gets absurd.

Sometimes it is funny. Considering the sheer numbers and diversity of Christians in this world when you hear someone from a reconstructed religion complain about what those "Christians" did to "their people" you are truly witnessing the human capacity to be dumb.

Take the recent thread on the laughter of Christians.

Good God.

 

[Sunstone]

Claims by anyone of having a "true" ideology, when coupled with a refusal to listen to or consider the perspectives behind others' expressions, are all the same kind of pain to me.

Same to me too.

BTW, the Forum has a rule against proselytizing. If you see someone proselytizing, please report it so the mods can deal with it. That goes for any sort of proselytizing, not just Christians proselytizing. Even atheists can proselytize.

 

[!Fluffy!]

no, but beyotching about it isnt going to help anyone

Hey, Since when is that my prime motivator for posting? And why are you picking on me buttons?

{note: If a naysayer wants to go back to the OP and do a point by point debate be my guest. But the thread was posted as a (partially humorous) response to another thread, in case you didn't get it}

i'd consult the Bible

You would really? You surprise me buttons, I never took you for much of a Bible consulter?

It's a God given right to complain? I put a question to you: "What would Yeshua do?"

Well he's jewish isn't he? :angel2:



No one gets my humor. No one. :sad4:


You people are just harshing my mellow all over again.

 

[Buttons*]

Hey, Since when is that my prime motivator for posting? And why are you picking on me buttons?

:sarcastic I'm not picking on you.

{note: If a naysayer wants to go back to the OP and do a point by point debate be my guest. But the thread was posted as a (partially humorous) response to another thread, in case you didn't get it}

apparently i didnt think it was that funny.

You would really? You surprise me buttons, I never took you for much of a Bible consulter?

you know what I meant, dont be cheeky *giggle*

Well he's jewish isn't he? :angel2:

last time i checked....

 

[Mister_T]

The Christian accusing everyone else of being deluded sinners will always subjectively believe that he or she is extolling rather than attacking.

But the problem is that people think that ALL Christians do this and it is simply not true nor is it accurate. It is an ignorant and vast generalization.

 

[XAAX]

Because they are generally hostile and unproductive

Because there are so many of them, and they all seem to sound the same after a while

Because they always seem to be full of broad-brush, unoriginal overgeneralizations

Because they are divisive and of little value at reaching mutual understanding

Because they are attacks rather than attempts to understand

Because I just keep wanting to say: What's yr damage, bro?

Although I agree that we all should refrain from making statements that categorize all people within a particular religion. But as far as the problem with Christianity, I didn't start the war so to say. What I mean by this is:

- I am not forcing my beliefs into our government to gain control of morality of this country.

- I do not look down on others because they happen to believe differently than I do, forcing them to wear any spiritual symbols under their cloths in fear of ridicule or condemnation.

- I do not force others to hide their true spiritual opinions in the workplace in fear of loosing their job

- I do not go to other countries and push my beliefs on others in exchange for my goodwill

Etc...

For those who say that someone can’t leave this religion alone, this religion is preventing me from leaving it alone. I would love nothing more than if Christians would go on their merry way where I would never have to deal with these injustices again. Now I know that all Christians are not like this, but I have lived all over this country, As far as I have seen (some worse than others), this is the norm for a lot of them. Definitely the majority. So when someone has a beef with Christians I fully understand and would like to discuss these problems. We should just be careful not to condemn the whole faith, for the actions of individuals within it.

 

[Buttons*]

Because they are generally hostile and unproductive

Because there are so many of them, and they all seem to sound the same after a while

Because they always seem to be full of broad-brush, unoriginal overgeneralizations

Because they are divisive and of little value at reaching mutual understanding

Because they are attacks rather than attempts to understand

Because I just keep wanting to say: What's yr damage, bro?

OKAY, my point and answer to all these points is that no one should focus on that crap. Everyone's been attacked at one time or another. I'm sure ANY Muslim, Hindu, Pagan, and many others could post the same list and whine about why they're being targeted. Thank goodness most of the people on this forum are not like that. They just want to answer people's questions concerning their faith and move on to enjoy life.

Not everyone will understand what the other one explains. Sometimes ideas are too different to appriciate by another party, but crying about being attacked.... who hasn't been?

 

[lilithu]

Buttons*, in general I agree with you that the proper response is to let all these hurts go. By focusing on the hurts to ourselves, we become unable to acknowledge the hurts we may have done to others, and only perpetuate. I agree.

But in this case, I had the impression that Moon Woman was just letting off some steam.

So why do you take it so personally?

Probably because it was a personal attack. The thread in question didn't criticize Christianity. It criticized Christians. And it's much easier for someone who isn't being directly attacked to step back than it is for the person who thinks that she's just been minding her own business and then gets side-swiped.

 

[doppelganger]

But the problem is that people think that ALL Christians do this and it is simply not true nor is it accurate. It is an ignorant and vast generalization.

I completely agree.

 

[XAAX]

by telling them their "laughter is full of pain"?
sorry I'm not buyin it
'tis one thing to extol, 'tis another to attack

I agreed with you on the fact that it was crap..overgeneralized and opinionated