Why are insurance costs out of control with the 'Affordable Healthcare Act"

[whirlingmerc]

My insurance for a family of 3 was 2200.00/month. This is not sustainable.

 

[jeager106]

Because the U.S. gov'ment controls it.
The Gov't does nothing economically.
Because foolish voters "bought" the notion that gov'ment insurance
would be FREE.
Anything doled out by the gov'ment is NEVER free.
Someone(s) like working taxpayers are footing the bill big time.
Nothing is so expensive as a FREE Gov'ment program.
Who is paying for all the people on the dole living and eating without
working and earning one thin dime?
A long time ago when I was a rookie cop I qualified for food stamps.
And took 'em.
For about 3 months then I got yet ANOTHER part time job and earned
enough to get off food stamps.
I ate BETTER on food stamps.
I watched ethnics trade food stamps for beer and wine. Something that
was supposed to be illegal.
Slum lords took food stamps for rent payment.
Those on the dole lived pretty well by supplementing expenses with
food stamps and shoplifting.
Sell the food stamps for cash then buy beer and wine. Sell the stolen
goods for cash. No taxes. Can't beat it.
Now there are no food stamps. They get a credit card so as to not be
embarrassed using paper food stamps.
If ya need the assistance then take it. Don't make it a way of life.

 

[jeager106]

Samo with the A.C.A. or Obama Care. Dr.s will find easy ways to take
the gov'ment money and get wealthy.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Basically because insurance companies have no accountability, and people thought "more insurance"--more of the problem--would be a suitable fix rather than going to a single-payer system.

New Because the U.S. gov'ment controls it.

Outside of medicare/medicaid and other state programs, the government does not control health insurance or care. And, for what it's worth, my socialist insurance that comes directly from the state of Indiana is pretty good. It doesn't cover all essentials and things I need, but it covers way more than ACA minimums and it cost me not a dime out of pocket to go through the dozens of doctors visits and barrage of testing when I developed IBS.

Dr.s will find easy ways to take

the gov'ment money and get wealthy.

I've not heard of the government giving doctors lunch, lavish dinners, and other incentives for advertising and promoting certain products. Rather, the ACA did give us a website to use to look up our caretakers and see what they are being provided on the side by pharmaceutical and insurance companies.

Because foolish voters "bought" the notion that gov'ment insurance

would be FREE.

I really doubt many think it's truly free. Yes, it's free as in free of out of pocket expenses, which is a tremendous plus when you're poor, but I don't think many fail to realize it comes out of taxes from things like income, sales, and excise taxes.

I ate BETTER on food stamps.

Me too. My overall health was much better then.

 

[buddhist]

Now there are no food stamps. They get a credit card so as to not be
embarrassed using paper food stamps.

Embarassment should be necessary.

 

[buddhist]

My insurance for a family of 3 was 2200.00/month. This is not sustainable.

Aren't we appreciating how great of a failure it is, like the Speaker suggested?

"Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Tuesday that people won’t appreciate how great the Democrat’s health plan is until after it passes."

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Embarassment should be necessary.

Embarrassed because they got laid off or their employer cut their wages?

 

[buddhist]

Embarrassed because they got laid off or their employer cut their wages?

Embarassment for being supported by the Public.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Embarassment for being supported by the Public.

Why is that inherently embarrassing? We are all supported, one way or another, by the Public.

 

[buddhist]

Why is that inherently embarrassing? We are all supported, one way or another, by the Public.

I'm saying it should be embarassing, as a motivation to get off of public subsidization as quickly as possible.

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

any time the government touches something, you can bet it will be a disaster.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm saying it should be embarassing, as a motivation to get off of public subsidization as quickly as possible.

Being embarrassed isn't going to force an employer to hire or give raises any sooner.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

any time the government touches something, you can bet it will be a disaster.

Really? Like it or not, a number of government programs and agencies have been successful.

 

[buddhist]

Being embarrassed isn't going to force an employer to hire or give raises any sooner.

No, but it should motivate the public welfare recipient to search harder.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

No, but it should motivate the public welfare recipient to search harder.

You can't make better paying jobs materialize.

 

[buddhist]

You can't make better paying jobs materialize.

Embarassment can motivate them to do other things - minimize their expenses, start an entrepreneurship, find support among their local community. It's not all about employers.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Embarassment can motivate them to do other things - minimize their expenses, start an entrepreneurship, find support among their local community. It's not all about employers.

Poor people generally are already cannot minimize their expenses any further, they have no money to start an entrepreneurship with, and sometimes the support can be hard to find or they just end up having to close their doors from a lack of support.

 

[buddhist]

Poor people generally are already cannot minimize their expenses any further, they have no money to start an entrepreneurship with, and sometimes the support can be hard to find or they just end up having to close their doors from a lack of support.

The embarassment should still be present, as a motivating factor.

 

[jeager106]

Embarassment should be necessary.

I always thought so.
It isn't. It's an expected entitlement.
When I was a police officer I bought groceries at Kroger's.
It's a low priced early "discount" grocery store.
"They" bought at the Village Market. The best grocery store we had.
They also lived in NEWLY built Gov'ment houses, drove really decent large
vehicles, summers in the "developments" were one long b b q.
Oh well so it goes.

 

[buddhist]

I always thought so.
It isn't. It's an expected entitlement.
When I was a police officer I bought groceries at Kroger's.
It's a low priced early "discount" grocery store.
"They" bought at the Village Market. The best grocery store we had.
They also lived in NEWLY built Gov'ment houses, drove really decent large
vehicles, summers in the "developments" were one long b b q.
Oh well so it goes.

They and the government are attempting to bypass the Law of Kamma (cause & effect, embarassment, etc.).

Unfortunately (or fortunately?), the force of Kamma will return in greater strength in the future, against those who try to do so.