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Why are you not an atheist?

Are you an atheist or agnostic? (if you are a Deist, vote no)

  • Yes

    Votes: 15 39.5%
  • No

    Votes: 23 60.5%

  • Total voters
    38

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
God can only reveal God to those who love God, atheists obviously can't love that which they don't believe exists, sad really.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
God can only reveal God to those who love God, atheists obviously can't love that which they don't believe exists, sad really.
Now that makes no sense at all. But then when one can't support ones beliefs it seems that they attack others here.

Can you try again without attacking those that do not agree with you?
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Now that makes no sense at all. But then when one can't support ones beliefs it seems that they attack others here.

Can you try again without attacking those that do not agree with you?
God can only reveal God to those who love God, obviously those who do not believe in God can't love that which they don't believe exists. Blessings my friend.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Only in your mind, sad really.
Not in my mind. In yours. You were the one that described a psychopathic God not me. Look at the strange version of God that you worship. He plays hide and seek and only reveals himself to those with what you have admitted is an irrational belief.
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Not in my mind. In yours. You were the one that described a psychopathic God not me. Look at the strange version of God that you worship. He plays hide and seek and only reveals himself to those with what you have admitted is an irrational belief.
Hey, God is everything that exists, known and unknown, how is that hiding?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Hey, God is everything that exists, known and unknown, how is that hiding?

No, that is merely your version of God.

What is your evidence for this God? You claim that he exists, we know that the universe exists because we can observe it, how do you know that a god exists?
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
No, that is merely your version of God.

What is your evidence for this God? You claim that he exists, we know that the universe exists because we can observe it, how do you know that a god exists?
The physical universe is God manifest, that which you do not see or know is God transcendent.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Why do so many theists believe that God is a psychopath?
I do not believe that <<God can only reveal God to those who love God. >>
God reveals Himself to everyone through his messengers.
Obviously you cannot love what you do not believe exists, but God loves everyone, whether they believe in Him or not.

4: O SON OF MAN! I loved thy creation, hence I created thee. Wherefore, do thou love Me, that I may name thy name and fill thy soul with the spirit of life.
5: O SON OF BEING! Love Me, that I may love thee. If thou lovest Me not, My love can in no wise reach thee. Know this, O servant.

The Hidden Words of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 4
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I do not believe that <<God can only reveal God to those who love God. >>
God reveals Himself to everyone through his messengers.
Obviously you cannot love what you do not believe exists, but God loves everyone, whether they believe in Him or not.

4: O SON OF MAN! I loved thy creation, hence I created thee. Wherefore, do thou love Me, that I may name thy name and fill thy soul with the spirit of life.
5: O SON OF BEING! Love Me, that I may love thee. If thou lovest Me not, My love can in no wise reach thee. Know this, O servant.

The Hidden Words of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 4

I know, but that makes little sense either. It appears that your version of God is incompetent when it comes to revealing himself. But at least he does not play hide and seek.

Yours may not be a psychopathic version of God.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
God bless you.

Trying to smugly insult is not wise. You don't see me saying "I will think for you". Can you please do better or simply admit that you have nothing reliable.

And if you think about it by not being able to support your claims you support my claim that your God is a psychopath.
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Trying to smugly insult is not wise. You don't see me saying "I will think for you". Can you please do better or simply admit that you have nothing reliable.

And if you think about it by not being able to support your claims you support my claim that your God is a psychopath.
You are forgiven by me.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I know, but that makes little sense either. It appears that your version of God is incompetent when it comes to revealing himself. But at least he does not play hide and seek.

Yours may not be a psychopathic version of God.
Only the Essence of God is hiding, the Attributes of God are manifested in the Messenger and the Will of God is revealed by the Messenger.
God does not want to reveal ALL of Himself, which is one reason He sends a Messenger.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Only the Essence of God is hiding, the Attributes of God are manifested in the Messenger and the Will of God is revealed by the Messenger.
God does not want to reveal ALL of Himself, which is one reason He sends a Messenger.
Why believe the messenger? We know that prophecy has failed. We covered that. Is there any reason that one messenger should be accepted over another? How does your messenger compare to Bobby Henderson?
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Only the Essence of God is hiding, the Attributes of God are manifested in the Messenger and the Will of God is revealed by the Messenger.
God does not want to reveal ALL of Himself, which is one reason He sends a Messenger.
So God reveals God to the Messenger?
 
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