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Why Ayn Rand Seems to Me So Pathetically Stupid Even When I am Drunk

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Perhaps only an American could be dumb enough to think ayn Rand was smart enough to be called a philosopher.
 

TurkeyOnRye

Well-Known Member
Perhaps only an American could be dumb enough to think ayn Rand was smart enough to be called a philosopher.

Smart enough to try. Her writing was colorful, at least. There's a reason why people like Noam Chomsky don't make any ripples with their writing.
 

Renji

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I'm game but what on earth is suju wine?

Suju (or Soju) is a rice wine, usually offered by Koreans to their guests;)
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Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Smart enough to try. Her writing was colorful, at least. There's a reason why people like Noam Chomsky don't make any ripples with their writing.


It's true she had a colorful style at times, but Noam Chomsky is fully capable of speaking more truth in five paragraphs than a person like Ayn Rand is capable of speaking in a life time of effort.

Chomsky trained to be an intellectual from age 12 onwards. He worked at it just like an Olympic class athlete dedicates himself to excel in his sport. In contrast, Ayn Rand left it to the speed she popped and was addicted to. Chomsky is magnificent by any standard, but Rand was merely yet another pathetic American pseudo-intellectual providing crap to those who follow crap.
 
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Sunstone, I have to be honest, I haven't read Ayn Rand. But judging by the parts you quoted in the OP, I would rather drill directly into my molar than read Rand. I would rather be tied down with raw meat on my stomach in a room full of starved rats than read Rand.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
My opinion is brought to you by the good folks at Leffe brewing company. Remember: think straight, **** Ayn Rand, and always drink Leffe.

Sunstone, I have to be honest, I haven't read Ayn Rand. But judging by the parts you quoted in the OP, I would rather drill directly into my molar than read Rand. I would rather be tied down with raw meat on my stomach in a room full of starved rats than read Rand.

Good to see you tonight, Spinks!

I can only concur with you that life for me would have been significantly better had I a root canal rather than read Ayn Rand in high school.
 

TurkeyOnRye

Well-Known Member
Noam Chomsky is fully capable of speaking more truth in five paragraphs than a person like Ayn Rand is capable of speaking in a life time of effort.

Chomsky trained to be an intellectual from age 12 onwards. He worked at it just like an Olympic class athlete dedicates himself to excel in his sport. In contrast, Ayn Rand left it to the speed she popped and was addicted to. Chomsky is magnificent by any standard, but Rand was merely yet another pathetic American pseudo-intellectual providing crap to those who follow crap.

I couldn't agree with you more. I may have misspoken. Noam Chomsky probably gets more credit than I thought he has been given. But the thought that it is on par with the amount of credit Rand has been given is a nauseating one, for sure.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I couldn't agree with you more. I may have misspoken. Noam Chomsky probably gets more credit than I thought he has been given. But the thought that it is on par with the amount of credit Rand has been given is a nauseating one, for sure.

The broad based American preference for Ayn Rand over Chomsky, my friend, is perhaps best understood in light of the fact that McDonald's is the most popular hamburger chain in America. People do not prefer Rand over Chomsky because she is higher quality than Chomsky -- just as they do not prefer McDonald's over better hamburgers because McDonald's is higher quality.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
The broad based American preference for Ayn Rand over Chomsky, my friend, is perhaps best understood in light of the fact that McDonald's is the most popular hamburger chain in America. People do not prefer Rand over Chomsky because she is higher quality than Chomsky -- just as they do not prefer McDonald's over better hamburgers because McDonald's is higher quality. On the contrary, they prefer Rand because even they can understand her, while not everyone can understand Chomsky.
I once sat through a training session on quality assurance where the presenter argued that McDonald's, Rolex and Levi's were all examples of excellent quality, since they all consistently acheived their criteria for success.
 

TurkeyOnRye

Well-Known Member
I once sat through a training session on quality assurance where the presenter argued that McDonald's, Rolex and Levi's were all examples of excellent quality, since they all consistently acheived their criteria for success.

Ha ha ha! More like achieved the presenter's criteria for success.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I once sat through a training session on quality assurance where the presenter argued that McDonald's, Rolex and Levi's were all examples of excellent quality, since they all consistently acheived their criteria for success.

Interesting. There is some small truth to that. But to suggest that McDonald's is on a par with Rolex or Mercedes Benz is to significantly narrow the definition of "quality" to the point that it is stretched like a fun house mirror stretches an image. Yes, McDonald's has achieved a remarkable degree of quality control -- a hamburger in New York tastes almost exactly the same as a hamburger in Seattle. But that doesn't mean either hamburger is as good as one made at home by an expert cook.
 
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