Adam and Eve? Adam “birthed” Eve?
I was unaware you hadn't read Genesis, where a woman comes out of a man.
Both signified the sacrifice of Jesus and the reality of Him taking our sins to a far away place.
But then he woke back up.
Not really. The fig tree has many representations.
I understand it is a metaphor. It is a stupid one. Not only does Jesus not even own the tree he destroys, he has magic food powers, which means there's nothing stopping him from putting figs on a barren tree. I thought he had the Water of Life or whatever. The authors are bad at keeping their metaphors straight.
Like a payload taken away.
I don't believe it's ethical to throw someone under the bus just so I don't get grounded.
Name one instance where he shows anything resembling filial love. He can't even call her "mom". I'd have been beaten to within an inch of my life if I called my mother "that woman".
No more than it being "assault" when a policeman takes down a thief.
They had security guards at the Temple. He had no right to assault people. I'll remember this when anti-Nazi or KKK protests get ugly.
Actually, he tore down that wall
He has to be guilt-tripped into helping gentiles. He helps Jews without question.
As far as I know, you and I are gentiles. He would've pushed us aside, at least initially.
Killed a fig tree. Killed a herd of pigs. Turned over kiosks at the Temple.
No more than plant abuse when you eat it.
Did he eat all those pigs he murdered?
While ignoring his own. He called people fools and said people who call people fools will burn in hell. I guess we know where he went?
A rose is a rose no matter what you call it.
The point is he was a hypocrite.
Both ended up dead after. Jesus is still alive.
What is his current address?
Do I need to "look harder"?
Why do you think it was a bother?
Why does God have magic powers that are ignored for plot convenience?
If he was a Second Adam, it would make more sense to make him from dirt, yes?
I don’t think my interpretation is compatible the idea of an all-knowing God, but Genesis doesn’t portray God as all-knowing. There are several points in the story where he’s portrayed as not knowing things, having plans go unexpectedly astray, etc.
There are times in the bible where God knows less than literally every civilization in the surrounding area and they were only marginally more intelligent.
That's pretty hard to do, I almost consider it an accomplishment.
It would be if it weren't also colored with the creepy males in my life, both inside family and outside.
Like Jesus, I have family issues. UNLIKE Jesus, I don't feel my emotional hangups should be considered gospel.
Fortunately, Bob the "UNBELIEVER" isn't a credible source to make that determination
not to mention you didn't have supportive external documentation for that statement
How can one be assured of Truth if people who don't have a horse to race aren't invited? Either Truth is objective or it isn't. Gravitating to apologist sites only shows me, a theist, that the faith is so fragile it can't take rational looks at things.
I guess Abe is debatable since he wouldn't be an Israelite and was still essentially just a Canaanite who moved out of town.
Their DNA being near genetically perfect, such bonding between a brother and sister, or uncle and niece, or aunt and nephew, would not have deleterious results, as it does today.
And you have the DNA results?
Even the Pharisees, who saw Christ's miracles, refused to give Him any credit.
Maybe that's because miracle workers were a dinar a dozen back then.
So how on EARTH did she get pregnant? Hmmmm?
Magic?
And we're dealing with a tween girl, at best, so the "angel" could've told her it wasn't sex and she'd believe it because she's a kid.
it was because of this very problem that Pilate was forced to crucify Jesus in the first place.
Pilate wasn't forced to do anything. He LIKED killing people. His epic levels of jerkitude was too much even for the Romans, who defined it.
Luke, besides being a meticulous doctor, was also wrote a clear and concise history.
So, you have Luke's medical records? A medical team can read over them and confirm Luke's medical expertise in a world where surgery barely existed and demons caused sickness?
Still, you have a point: I would go to an ancient doctor over a faith healer any day of the week. I'd at least have a CHANCE with the doctor.
The Romans had place soldiers to make sure no-one took the body. Customarily, the soldiers would be executed for failing to follow orders--a good motivation to make sure they did their job. Also, the reason why" the authorities knew the Resurrection... ... was circulating".
You forget Jesus healed the servant of a centurion who could certainly grease some wheels in gratitude.
Does Hillary want all of her emails recorded into historical evidence? Or does she erase some 30,000+ of them.
She can turn those in on the same day Trump makes his tax returns public.
What "that?" That the Pharaoh successfully led his people through great difficulty?
That whichever Egyptian god they attributed the plagues to was displeased with Egypt, but after the Pharaoah instructed the High Priest to make the proper incantations and sacrifices, order was restored and further punishment was thwarted?
You really think that there's no possible way for an Egyptian pharaoh to spin the story?
Exactly. The Hittites handed Rameses II his behind and he still managed to squeak out a story about how epic he was in getting away with the skin of his teeth or some such nonsense.
??? What story are you spinning? We are talking about why it isn't even listed. Why would you list your faults when the monuments you are creating are for your "good memories"?
It wasn't Pharoah's fault they all just walked off. He "banished" them. See how this works?
The fact is? EXODUS NEVER TOOK PLACE, BECAUSE THE HEBREWS WERE NEVER IN EGYPT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
And Egypt owned Canaan a lot of the time, so it could've been like fleeing the US by going from Vermont to Maine.
At one time they thought King David was a myth until........ archaeological discoveries
You mean where they mention the House of David but none of the stories that go along with it? Do you have letters from King Saul berating his son for being naked in front of the rifraff (David)?
At one time they didn't believe King Solomon's Kingdom was that large until...... archaeological discoveries.
Israel isn't large on its best day.
My favourite aspect of the Exodus story is how they supposedly wandered on the Sinai Peninsula for 40 years even though if just the men stood shoulder-to-shoulder, they would form a line long enough to stretch from one side of the peninsula to the other.
It's like when I learned you can walk from Egypt to Israel in less than 2 full weeks, courtesy of Google Maps.
Yes, wandering, 3500 years ago, with distinct Laws governing their cleanliness.
Okay, so they picked up the poop.
Where did they put it?
What would you expect to find, Snickers wrappers laying on the ground?
Did they not steal a mountain worth of gold and jewels and such from the Egyptians? You're telling me no one ever dropped an earring they stole off a screaming Egyptian woman?
Persons with the right heart would obviously not have acted like Pharaoh, and those religious leaders. They humbly accepted the clear proof.
Yeah, like when the US became Muslim when terrorists said Allah said we had been mean to them.
Pharaoh saw powerful works beyond anything he had ever seen
His men were doing the exact same miracles.
but because he felt his gods could do equal works through his priest, he stubbornly refused to admit the truth
So if Muslims or Hindus or whatever do miracles, you won't be afraid to admit the truth?
The religious leaders in Jesus' day could see that Jesus' miracles were beyond the signs they saw performed by others
Even in the bible, food and curing miracles were a dime a dozen.
There must be some kind of justice. What do you think?
I'll believe Christians believe in Justice when they stop asking Jesus to pay for their own stupidity.
Think of a family of say, eight persons, where one or more individual in the family does something, I don't know.... something. If of those eight, six were witnesses, they are all you need to give evidence.
If you ask my mother anything, she'll give you a ton of backstory for a half ounce-worth of reality.
FYI, while in the wilderness
wandering, “their sandals did not wear out.” —
Deuteronomy 29:5.
They never went to the bathroom either? We can dig up dino dung but not Hebrew poop?
40 years without taking a dump. As an RN, that makes me want to cry.
Isn't that the quail God sent to "help" them and everyone who ate it died?
