Why can't God...

[Jos]

Why can't God, if He/She/It exists just create humans whom they know would want to exist instead of creating people who hate being here? Do they like seeing people suffer, is them being here even though they don't want to be here some type of practical joke for this being? Like gosh, why can't God just leave people alone? If a God's all knowing they should know exactly who to create since they would foresee who would want to be here and who would not want to be here, so it's not that difficult to just to create people who want to exist and leave alone those who don't want to exist and especially in the case of those who commit suicide it makes no sense why He would create those people at all.

 

[RoaringSilence]

Why can't God, if He/She/It exists just create humans whom they know would want to exist instead of creating people who hate being here? Do they like seeing people suffer, is them being here even though they don't want to be here some type of practical joke for this being? Like gosh, why can't God just leave people alone? If a God's all knowing they should know exactly who to create since they would foresee who would want to be here and who would not want to be here, so it's not that difficult to just to create people who want to exist and leave alone those who don't want to exist and especially in the case of those who commit suicide it makes no sense why He would create those people at all.

its the same souls that get recycled over n over for different lessons each time, and karmic load. for example you treated your parents like servants in this life, either you would get sons or daughters who would do the same treatment to you.. or in next life you serve the same souls diligently . karmic entanglements. every piece of the jigsaw is exactly where it should be. if you are going thru a tough time then please elaborate so people can help you . i ve been thru a tough time myself for past 2 years almost getting out of it now

 

[Nakosis]

Why can't God, if He/She/It exists just create humans whom they know would want to exist instead of creating people who hate being here? Do they like seeing people suffer, is them being here even though they don't want to be here some type of practical joke for this being? Like gosh, why can't God just leave people alone? If a God's all knowing they should know exactly who to create since they would foresee who would want to be here and who would not want to be here, so it's not that difficult to just to create people who want to exist and leave alone those who don't want to exist and especially in the case of those who commit suicide it makes no sense why He would create those people at all.

Maybe God is a sadist. Maybe God gets He/Her/Its jollies seeing folks suffer.
Really what the hell do we know about God except through some prophets we never met.
An all powerful God could do anything they want including watching people suffer for kicks.

People only hope there is a benevolent God. There's no guarantee that a God would have anyone else's best interests at heart.

IMO if you want happiness in this life, that's up to you to find, God or no God. No sense waiting around for some God to make your life better, doesn't seem to be part of the plan.

 

[Kenny]

Why can't God, if He/She/It exists just create humans whom they know would want to exist instead of creating people who hate being here? .

God just created the first pair... after that it's all man/woman IMV.

 

[leov]

Maybe God is a sadist. Maybe God gets He/Her/Its jollies seeing folks suffer.
Really what the hell do we know about God except through some prophets we never met.
An all powerful God could do anything they want including watching people suffer for kicks.

People only hope there is a benevolent God. There's no guarantee that a God would have anyone else's best interests at heart.

IMO if you want happiness in this life, that's up to you to find, God or no God. No sense waiting around for some God to make your life better, doesn't seem to be part of the plan.

Why can't God, if He/She/It exists just create humans whom they know would want to exist instead of creating people who hate being here? Do they like seeing people suffer, is them being here even though they don't want to be here some type of practical joke for this being? Like gosh, why can't God just leave people alone? If a God's all knowing they should know exactly who to create since they would foresee who would want to be here and who would not want to be here, so it's not that difficult to just to create people who want to exist and leave alone those who don't want to exist and especially in the case of those who commit suicide it makes no sense why He would create those people at all.

Freedom, we are in hell but we are free.

 

[InChrist]

Why can't God, if He/She/It exists just create humans whom they know would want to exist instead of creating people who hate being here? Do they like seeing people suffer, is them being here even though they don't want to be here some type of practical joke for this being? Like gosh, why can't God just leave people alone? If a God's all knowing they should know exactly who to create since they would foresee who would want to be here and who would not want to be here, so it's not that difficult to just to create people who want to exist and leave alone those who don't want to exist and especially in the case of those who commit suicide it makes no sense why He would create those people at all.

Probably because God created humanity, as in plural, the human family, not simply separate individuals here and there. Everyone is related...grandparents, parents, children, cousins, aunts, uncles, etc. That is how God designed people to come into existence and have life, through relationships.

 

[Trailblazer]

Why can't God, if He/She/It exists just create humans whom they know would want to exist instead of creating people who hate being here? Do they like seeing people suffer, is them being here even though they don't want to be here some type of practical joke for this being? Like gosh, why can't God just leave people alone? If a God's all knowing they should know exactly who to create since they would foresee who would want to be here and who would not want to be here, so it's not that difficult to just to create people who want to exist and leave alone those who don't want to exist and especially in the case of those who commit suicide it makes no sense why He would create those people at all.

God did not create people who don't want to be here. A man and woman had sex and created a child. Of course, God being All-Knowing knew what would happen to that child but God does not interfere with human free will.

There are times I wish I had never been born but luckily that is not all the time or most of the time; but life is tough, so it might have been easier to never have been born. But if I had never been born then I would have have an afterlife in the spiritual world, so living on this earth for a while is the price we have to pay in order to get to our final destination, which is glorious, more glorious than we can ever imagine.

 

[Trailblazer]

i ve been thru a tough time myself for past 2 years almost getting out of it now

I am glad to hear that you are getting out of it. I have been in it for as long as I can remember and I do not see an end in sight, so I have tried to settle into it. I do think I am getting help from God now though, bad as it is.

The material world of existence is a storehouse of suffering, and some of us suffer much more than others. It seems like some people skate through it with hardly any suffering at all, and if anything God does is unfair, that is it. I believe we only go through this life once, and we never come back here, and for that I can be grateful. The worst punishment would be having to come back here.

 

[dfnj]

Why can't God, if He/She/It exists just create humans whom they know would want to exist instead of creating people who hate being here? Do they like seeing people suffer, is them being here even though they don't want to be here some type of practical joke for this being? Like gosh, why can't God just leave people alone? If a God's all knowing they should know exactly who to create since they would foresee who would want to be here and who would not want to be here, so it's not that difficult to just to create people who want to exist and leave alone those who don't want to exist and especially in the case of those who commit suicide it makes no sense why He would create those people at all.

Unless you experience suffering you will not know what it means to be joyous. All meaning comes from a unity of opposites:

Unity of opposites - Wikipedia

Our omnipotent God have created us so He can experience the thrill of having limitations by vicarious sharing in our experiences of joys and frustrations. When are happy our God is happy. When we are sad our God is sad. Our omnipotent God is perfect, complete, whole, and not have a single desire. God created the Universe out of an overflowing of abundance not because of some lack or need. Unfortunately for us God created the Universe and people with imperfections. It is these imperfections in nature and human character that is the source of all that is evil in the World. When we experience great beauty in nature or great performances in our lives it makes us feel closer to the absolute perfection and unity that is God. This is why we are drawn to greatness. When we die we go into the light, stare into the face of God, and directly experience the absolute perfection and unity that is God. When we stare into the face of God time stops and we share in the infinite oneness, perfection, wholeness, completeness, and lack of any needs or desires that is God. We exist so we can experience greatness until we return back to the source of what makes everything great.

 

[Jos]

Why do I even bother? I should have seen this coming, I should have seen that this would have been a waste of time, none of these answers are verifiable or falsifiable, and can't be proven to be true or false, so it was a waste of time to ask, sorry for wasting your time everyone.

 

[Nakosis]

Freedom, we are in hell but we are free.

Hell ain't so bad.

 

[Workman]

Why can't God, if He/She/It exists just create humans whom they know would want to exist instead of creating people who hate being here? Do they like seeing people suffer, is them being here even though they don't want to be here some type of practical joke for this being? Like gosh, why can't God just leave people alone? If a God's all knowing they should know exactly who to create since they would foresee who would want to be here and who would not want to be here, so it's not that difficult to just to create people who want to exist and leave alone those who don't want to exist and especially in the case of those who commit suicide it makes no sense why He would create those people at all.

So...you did not believe in God, and now your claimed by all things that are NOT made in your understanding..should THAN by ‘THAT’..Believe in blaming God????!!!
Pity! You think of God that way..
If had only My God be (imperfect) for just only 1 minute...than God himself will approach you to show you..whom are to blame(evil). But God Be ABSOLUTE Perfect!..that means God DOES NOT POINT FINGERS..for that is a work of weakness!..just like how your (pointing) out what God is....

It is your Job from being of your free-will to find God..and to believe through faith in God..and than by understanding why all are there to happen in the world...but (if) you don’t...than you will live NOT like the rest of them...

I know all that be needed for all to be known..
I keep of all in your answers...within me.
I am the Alpha and the Omega.
I can become anything or anyone I wish to be...

But I choose NOT to (being) with you! For be the ONLY True love for my Father that has dwelled from me..and I sacrificed everything I have..be for my father has loved me so. And NO ONE will take that away from me..not even ALL of YOU!

You, like the rest of them ‘Hate’..are blind to think than know what be really going on..for deep sleep you have become more very gullible of your own nightmare!

You even don’t know that your doings are causing you to blinding yourself...

example..this be a question for you!

“When you go buying or owning something your not yet aware of its ‘how to use’ for you to work...what then will you look for in order for you to know how it works?...Yes!..a manual book for its instructions of ‘How to Work’.

You cannot drive a car..unless YOU went through the EFFORT of learning how to drive.
Or you cannot build a house..unless YOU went through the EFFORT to learn of how its structured..or even to know the alphabet..How did you get to learn that? Let me enlighten you!..there was no effort by then, why? Because (?they?) have stolen you..and taught you which efforts are best to make of your dreams come true..for that is where the most crucial time for a human kind to learn..YOUNG and innocent! For they don’t know anything(but their own free-will), and the best part about teaching young children is that..They do NOT know how to DISAGREE!..and now you say to me YOU KNOW GOD BY YOUR EFFORTS? Really!..you cannot fool me, but you can certainly fool yourself.

Now tell me! Do you understand how important instructions can be to affect our being in?

Than you would know ‘The Instructions’ are MOST important information we MUST know to make of our living.

So hear this!..
When you entered this world...did you ask for the most important manual book of yourself?
your own instruction in how you work?
I’m talking about your insides!..do you know why one gets agitated?, addictive?, habits?, Confusing?, Sick?
DO YOU KNOW YOUR OWN WORK OF INSTRUCTION?

but instead!..blinded for other things you want to know by their own of instruction. Forgetting in your own!..that was caused from being not aware of your own reality(sleep).

The difference with what you know, and what I understand..now KNOW
Was done by your payment(money) in science(schooling) for your knowledge...
Whereas for mine...were not payed...for I came from a very poor family...I learnt everything through being skeptic and being Gnostic about what life is all about...but my answers were found in the Bible..and from by my free-will I have devoted my effort to the mysteries that are in depth of the word..and there! I saw my INSTRUCTION(S).

Through your efforts you will find..

And through your faith you will find..

But through knowledge(by your asking) will only cheat God..I do Not cheat GOD..it was already done by your thoughts and your knowing...I will Not tell you of any easy way for you to (Know) of God..for there was not ever such a easy way to know God..but your own science work has made it hard for you to see..

through your own effort and faith.. I will give Gods People in all religions the strength by my words..and will gear them suit for their journey back home.

Whom ever has ears should hear!

 

[Shia Islam]

Why can't God, if He/She/It exists just create humans whom they know would want to exist instead of creating people who hate being here? Do they like seeing people suffer, is them being here even though they don't want to be here some type of practical joke for this being? Like gosh, why can't God just leave people alone? If a God's all knowing they should know exactly who to create since they would foresee who would want to be here and who would not want to be here, so it's not that difficult to just to create people who want to exist and leave alone those who don't want to exist and especially in the case of those who commit suicide it makes no sense why He would create those people at all.

Nobody has committed suicide because He\She does not want to exist. They love life very much, to the degree that they just can't accept seeing their lives spoiled by the the causes of their suicide.

Existing humans just love to be existing!

 

[Jos]

Nobody has committed suicide because He\She does not want to exist. They love life very much, to the degree that they just can't accept seeing their lives spoiled by the the causes of their suicide.

Existing humans just love to be existing!

That is so not true! Like omg! Some people have done it because they didn't want to be here anymore. Smh

 

[nPeace]

Why can't God, if He/She/It exists just create humans whom they know would want to exist instead of creating people who hate being here? Do they like seeing people suffer, is them being here even though they don't want to be here some type of practical joke for this being? Like gosh, why can't God just leave people alone? If a God's all knowing they should know exactly who to create since they would foresee who would want to be here and who would not want to be here, so it's not that difficult to just to create people who want to exist and leave alone those who don't want to exist and especially in the case of those who commit suicide it makes no sense why He would create those people at all.

Jos, the process by which God made it possible for life is very loving - very.
When a couple has intercourse, the bond of love is strengthened even more.
When a child is born, as a result of those love expressions, the relationship is enhanced, as there share a common joy - their own offspring. Girl or boy, it does not matter, the smiles on their faces, says everything.
Now imagine if they saw a dog come out, and the nurse puts the dog on the mother's breast. Oh, the horror! The bitterness.

Why the difference?
The parents would both expect offspring in their likeness. One they can relate to, and communicate with, as they know.
How will they do that with a dog?

So the way God chose to fill the earth with humans, is wise, loving, and just.
Now add just the right "ingredient" to this mix (the child, not the dog), and what will you have?
The right ingredient...
(Deuteronomy 6:5-9) 5 You must love Jehovah your God with all your heart and all your soul and all your strength. 6 These words that I am commanding you today must be on your heart, 7 and you must inculcate them in your sons and speak of them when you sit in your house and when you walk on the road and when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them as a reminder on your hand, and they must be like a headband on your forehead. 9 Write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.

If everyone listened to God, and obeyed him, then the blessings of Jehovah would make them rich, and they would experience no pain.
Who doesn't want to live, if life is free of pain?

People don't want to live, because of the things you mentioned - pain and suffering. These are not God's fault, but are due to persons choosing not to listen to God, and obey.
They are the ones who bought calamity on their family.

From what I see in life, this is reality. I don't know of anyone who is listening to God, and obeying him, that wished they were never born, or are unhappy to be alive.

Contrast that with people who do not know God, or are misled by the lies about God, and the philosophies that try to eradicate God from people's thoughts, and lives.
I personally know of such people who don't want to live, or could care less about their life, or the lives of others.
We only have to look at the numerous mass shootings, and thousands of suicides to know this.
However, I have seen people go from that state, to one where they want to live, because after learning the truth about God, and listening to, and obeying him, their life now has meaning and purpose.

So in short, to answer your question, one should be asking, not why God did not do this or that, but why don't we listen to God for a change, and see if the Christians are right, that we will get out of this mess we are in, which we can't help ourselves out of.

It's not going to happen though, Jos... and here is why?
1. People reject God, and are judgmental of him, because...
2. They hate God's standards of right and wrong, and want to make their own.
Ezekiel 18:25  “‘And YOU people will certainly say: “The way of Jehovah is not adjusted right.” Hear, please, O house of Israel. Is not my own way adjusted right? Are not the ways of YOU people not adjusted right?

Finally, from experience, I know that people who at present, "hate being here", are getting the opportunity to love being here, and they are responding by the thousands, as they hear the good news of God's kingdom being preached.
That's why so many people love to see Jehovah's Witnesses, and they welcome them, so much so that, some have to be put on a 'waiting list', as there are not sufficient Witnesses in the area, to study the Bible with them... and that's why people should reject the ideologies people like Pastor Darwin promote, as the God dishonoring philosophies that they are, and get back to their Bibles.

Fat chance.

 

[Jos]

So...you did not believe in God, and now your claimed by all things that are NOT made in your understanding..should THAN by ‘THAT’..Believe in blaming God????!!!
Pity! You think of God that way..
If had only My God be (imperfect) for just only 1 minute...than God himself will approach you to show you..whom are to blame(evil). But God Be ABSOLUTE Perfect!..that means God DOES NOT POINT FINGERS..for that is a work of weakness!..just like how your (pointing) out what God is....

It is your Job from being of your free-will to find God..and to believe through faith in God..and than by understanding why all are there to happen in the world...but (if) you don’t...than you will live NOT like the rest of them...

I know all that be needed for all to be known..
I keep of all in your answers...within me.
I am the Alpha and the Omega.
I can become anything or anyone I wish to be...

But I choose NOT to (being) with you! For be the ONLY True love for my Father that has dwelled from me..and I sacrificed everything I have..be for my father has loved me so. And NO ONE will take that away from me..not even ALL of YOU!

You, like the rest of them ‘Hate’..are blind to think than know what be really going on..for deep sleep you have become more very gullible of your own nightmare!

You even don’t know that your doings are causing you to blinding yourself...

example..this be a question for you!

“When you go buying or owning something your not yet aware of its ‘how to use’ for you to work...what then will you look for in order for you to know how it works?...Yes!..a manual book for its instructions of ‘How to Work’.

You cannot drive a car..unless YOU went through the EFFORT of learning how to drive.
Or you cannot build a house..unless YOU went through the EFFORT to learn of how its structured..or even to know the alphabet..How did you get to learn that? Let me enlighten you!..there was no effort by then, why? Because (?they?) have stolen you..and taught you which efforts are best to make of your dreams come true..for that is where the most crucial time for a human kind to learn..YOUNG and innocent! For they don’t know anything(but their own free-will), and the best part about teaching young children is that..They do NOT know how to DISAGREE!..and now you say to me YOU KNOW GOD BY YOUR EFFORTS? Really!..you cannot fool me, but you can certainly fool yourself.

Now tell me! Do you understand how important instructions can be to affect our being in?

Than you would know ‘The Instructions’ are MOST important information we MUST know to make of our living.

So hear this!..
When you entered this world...did you ask for the most important manual book of yourself?
your own instruction in how you work?
I’m talking about your insides!..do you know why one gets agitated?, addictive?, habits?, Confusing?, Sick?
DO YOU KNOW YOUR OWN WORK OF INSTRUCTION?

but instead!..blinded for other things you want to know by their own of instruction. Forgetting in your own!..that was caused from being not aware of your own reality(sleep).

The difference with what you know, and what I understand..now KNOW
Was done by your payment(money) in science(schooling) for your knowledge...
Whereas for mine...were not payed...for I came from a very poor family...I learnt everything through being skeptic and being Gnostic about what life is all about...but my answers were found in the Bible..and from by my free-will I have devoted my effort to the mysteries that are in depth of the word..and there! I saw my INSTRUCTION(S).

Through your efforts you will find..

And through your faith you will find..

But through knowledge(by your asking) will only cheat God..I do Not cheat GOD..it was already done by your thoughts and your knowing...I will Not tell you of any easy way for you to (Know) of God..for there was not ever such a easy way to know God..but your own science work has made it hard for you to see..

through your own effort and faith.. I will give Gods People in all religions the strength by my words..and will gear them suit for their journey back home.

Whom ever has ears should hear!

It's completely unreasonable for any God to expect fallible humans to figure out that they exist given the tons of claims about God and the tons of religions out there, so don't lecture to me about finding God when we can't even understand the supernatural and humans are fallible and limited in time, space and understanding... any God who expects me to somehow find him among the mess that is theism and the supernatural with all their varying claims and ideas about God is completely and utterly unreasonable.

 

[Trailblazer]

Existing humans just love to be existing!

Not all of us do, but we know we will continue to exist even if we kill ourselves so that is no solution.

 

[Trailblazer]

That is so not true! Like omg! Some people have done it because they didn't want to be here anymore. Smh

True, like duh.

 

[Trailblazer]

People don't want to live, because of the things you mentioned - pain and suffering. These are not God's fault, but are due to persons choosing not to listen to God, and obey.
They are the ones who bought calamity on their family.

That presumes that choosing to listen to God would end all suffering.
Sorry, but that is just too simplistic.

I do everything I am supposed to be doing for God and that is why I am suffering so much right now.
If I had thought of myself, I would be having fun like everyone else around me.
Instead, my life has gone to wrack and ruin.

“The trials of man are of two kinds. (a) The consequences of his own actions. If a man eats too much, he ruins his digestion; if he takes poison he becomes ill or dies. If a person gambles he will lose his money; if he drinks too much he will lose his equilibrium. All these sufferings are caused by the man himself, it is quite clear therefore that certain sorrows are the result of our own deeds. (b) Other sufferings there are, which come upon the Faithful of God. Consider the great sorrows endured by Christ and by His apostles! .......

Those who declare a wish to suffer much for Christ’s sake must prove their sincerity; those who proclaim their longing to make great sacrifices can only prove their truth by their deeds. Job proved the fidelity of his love for God by being faithful through his great adversity, as well as during the prosperity of his life. The apostles of Christ who steadfastly bore all their trials and sufferings—did they not prove their faithfulness? Was not their endurance the best proof?

These griefs are now ended.”
Paris Talks, pp. 49-50

 

[Trailblazer]

any God who expects me to somehow find him among the mess that is theism and the supernatural with all their varying claims and ideas about God is completely and utterly unreasonable.

In a sense that is true. It is very difficult but not impossible, and not all people find the one true God. They find a figment of their imagination. Are they better off than atheists? I cannot say, only God knows.