lostwanderingsoul
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In the past, the entire population was evil except for Noah and his family. The evil ones were destroyed by water. In the future, the evil ones will be destroyed by fire.
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I'm fond of Allan Kardec's book "the spirits book". In that book the Spirits tell him that every Spirit will eventually be purified and made perfect. Wouldn't you prefer it if that was the case? Maybe it is. How do you know it isn't? In the Scriptures, sometimes God changes his mind. Why can't all spirits eventually be redeemed?
Beautiful post!I think the religious ideology needs a scapegoat to justify any atrocity it has committed or may commit in the future. The destruction of souls for example. How could you justify that if they could be redeemed?
And don't buy into the freewill BS, are you going to let your kid play in the street just to preserve the sanctity of freewill? What kind of parent are you?
That's a frightening thing to think. Removing people from society for the good of others, because that person wouldn't kneel before god? It's a wonderful assumption to think that those who don't believe as you do should be removed from society for the good of the others.If they completely refuse then they will be removed from society for the good of the others.
I jaywalk in front of cops, on a rather regular basis, and nobody around here even notices or cares. It is technically illegal, but here it has zero enforcement.There are jails to remove people from society who do not obey the laws.
I understand the Bible has a scope of time allotted to what it calls "a heavens and an earth" or a single Creation.I'm fond of Allan Kardec's book "the spirits book". In that book the Spirits tell him that every Spirit will eventually be purified and made perfect. Wouldn't you prefer it if that was the case? Maybe it is. How do you know it isn't? In the Scriptures, sometimes God changes his mind. Why can't all spirits eventually be redeemed?
....how can a book do the thinking "for you." Isnt that an oxymoron? I cant argue about god without using the Bible now can I...Because bible quotes do the thinking for you.
Can you type something with your own words without needing to have to have to post bible quotes?
Why not?I cant argue about god without using the Bible now can I...
The bible is chock full of people who should've died the instant they sinned, but they didn't. Many are even considered heroes and, in Islam, prophets. Maury Povich and Jerry Springer could base entire seasons on King David ALONE. Why is he a hero? Why is Jacob a hero, who tricks various family members into getting unearned perks? Why is Moses a hero? None of these people are seriously struck down for their sins, which number many. Add to that the notion of forgiveness/grace, and you get a God who is remarkably arbitrary in enforcement.Well, if you live in New York you must obey the laws of New York. If you live in London, you must obey the laws of London. There are jails to remove people from society who do not obey the laws. Why would God be any different? If you want to live in His kingdom you must obey His laws. It has nothing to do with kneeling before Him. If you refuse to obey the laws you will be removed from that society.
........Why do you think. I can't explain the explainations of the explained .....thats just too much work in itself, at this point either you see it or you don't.Why not?
Sounds like a cop out to me.........Why do you think. I can't explain the explainations of the explained .....thats just too much work in itself, at this point either you see it or you don't.
Why would Lucifer want or need redemption?
If, you threw yourself off a bridge you would find the real Tyrant is Satan.Even for me, returning to the chains and shackles of the Tyrant is just not desirable, and I much rather throw myself over a bridge
Lucifer didn't set you free he just kept you shackles tight around you so good is he as deceiving you cannot see your own worst enemy.. As Lucifer set me free, I don't think he'll be anymore willing to see a need for this redemption and return to a god who won't even hear his case.
I'm fond of Allan Kardec's book "the spirits book". In that book the Spirits tell him that every Spirit will eventually be purified and made perfect. Wouldn't you prefer it if that was the case? Maybe it is. How do you know it isn't? In the Scriptures, sometimes God changes his mind. Why can't all spirits eventually be redeemed?
When I followed god, I was miserable, depressed, and attempted suicide. Life was suffering, and I yearned for its end. That horrible darkness I was trapped in was cast out by the true Light Bearer, Lucifer.Lucifer didn't set you free he just kept you shackles tight around you so good is he as deceiving you cannot see your own worst enemy.
What is just in declaring "follow me and my rules during your short life or suffer for eternity?"It's all about justification.
Sounds like a cop out to me.
So basically what you are saying is that your only source of information for EVERYTHING concerning god is the Bible, right?
That has to be right.
I mean, if you could know something about god outside from the Bible then you would not be required to use the Bible to argue something about god.
One wonders why you would so limit your limitless deity?