Why can't some people accept that the Israelites were black?

[JacobEzra.]

I didn't say that it wouldn't exist, just that wouldn't attract quite the fervor that this issue does

I don't know. White racist are just as bad as Black racist

 

[Caladan]

I didn't say that it wouldn't exist, just that wouldn't attract quite the fervor that this issue does

It will, and it already has. here and elsewhere.

 

[cablescavenger]

It is quickly becoming common knowledge to people waking up that the Israelites were indeed a black people. It is also understood that many (if not most or all) blacks of slave descent are Israelites as well.

Why is it that in light of such information, people have such a hard time accepting these facts?

I am not sure the Jews are one race.

 

[Nakosis]

Reason that interpretation became so big in America, is because Christian slave owners used it to justify slavery. And especially in the south, the interpretation was popular into segregation era

One shouldn't go around justify things nor accepting justifications supported by the "authority" of the Bible.

 

[Rakhel]

There are actually a couple of late midrashim that say that the curse of Ham was to blacken his skin. But it was hardly a universally-accepted idea, and in any case, it's midrash, not what is actually written in the text of Torah, and not what the Rabbis ever said was the literal meaning of the text.

Midrash is a vast pool of "what if," and you can find a thousand crazy ideas in there that nobody ever believed was literally true.

The idea that it was literal truth is actually a Christian eisegetic reading that dates from late medieval times. It had nothing to do with us.

But of course, Christians have always had a bit of an issue with blurring the lines between exegesis and eisegesis, and literal and interpreted meaning of text. I suppose it shouldn't be surprising that fringe nutballs and fruitcakes can be convinced that something wacky is the literal meaning of Jewish text if a few antiquated or uninformed Christian study guides and dictionaries tell them so.

Yeah I know. That's why I don't buy the story that Ham was cursed with blackened skin. I heard it once, in a Mormon church years ago, when I started asking about G-d, I was 7, I think. I didn't buy it then and I don't buy it now.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

True enough... Technically, we're all descended from Africans.

Doesn't make my lily white butt any darker, though.

You can be my soul sista..! "Gimme 5 on the back hand side"....

 

[Viker]

It is quickly becoming common knowledge to people waking up that the Israelites were indeed a black people. It is also understood that many (if not most or all) blacks of slave descent are Israelites as well.

Why is it that in light of such information, people have such a hard time accepting these facts?

Wrong. They were extraterrestrials.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

The Sparda... are you an affiliate of the Isrealite Church of Universal Practical Knowledge or one of their descendant organizations? There is a church of theirs a few blocks away from me with a really awesome picture of the triumphant return of black Jesus on a huge horse surrounded by flaming ezikiel UFO's marked with stars of david.

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To answer your question I think the reason is because most people accept the Black Hebrew Isrealite movement as a movement on its own with a history related to itself, early Black nationalism, and movements like the Nation of Islam as opposed to having anything to do with bona fide Judaism or its study.

Sound similar to The Nubian Islamic Hebrews (a.k.a Ansaarulah Community) started by Malachi Z. York back in the day. They were once muslims and I liked them but then they started getting into the whole spaceship stuff and Anunaki....and actually built a pyramid in Georgia....wow!

 

[Viker]

Sound similar to The Nubian Islamic Hebrews (a.k.s Ansaarulah) started by Malachi Z. York back in the day. They were once muslims and I liked them but then they started getting into the whole spaceship stuff and Anunaki....and actually built a pyramid in Georgia....wow!

They learned the secret of the original Israelites! ET's.

 

[idav]

Isn't Judaism only like 6,000 years old. They must have lost their skin color rather quickly. Judaism certainly is not 200,000 years old when we decented from Africa and even if we were, humanoids weren't black 200,000 years ago. Too much wrong I don't even know where to begin.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

They learned the secret of the original Israelites! ET's.

I know...LOL!!...and in the process their leader got locked up.....

 

[gnostic]

It is quickly becoming common knowledge to people waking up that the Israelites were indeed a black people. It is also understood that many (if not most or all) blacks of slave descent are Israelites as well.

Why is it that in light of such information, people have such a hard time accepting these facts?

:biglaugh:

:sorry1: I just thought it so funny...

:biglaugh:

...I just can't help it....

What a novel idea.

 

[Sleeppy]

I think the important things are history as is, and scholarly consensus.

I have doubts about history as is. And I don't really care about any consensus. But.. it doesn't really matter.

Why does a spirit needs to reject anyone?
why can't people be what they have been throughout history? whey can't they feel at ease with their cultural and historical background, or with their family history?
why do we need to revionise history to begin with in order to form a false exclusivity?

Everything has constraints. I'm not sure what you're asking with the other questions.

 

[Desert Snake]

Some of them were probably black, I believe that Solomon was said to have been, actually.

 

[gnomon]

The day this thread was started I Youtube stumbled onto a video in which someone was asserting the exact same nonsense about Black Israel.

Sometimes I feel sorry for people. To be so dumb. It's like the Klansmen who assert that Jesus could not have been Jewish. Their stupidity reaches the point of "Awwwwwwww. Kind of cute." before you realize just how dangerous such stupidity actually is. White Power. Black Athena. The Mexica Movement. Sad but disturbing in the revelations of the depths of human stupidity.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

The day this thread was started I Youtube stumbled onto a video in which someone was asserting the exact same nonsense about Black Israel.

Sometimes I feel sorry for people. To be so dumb. It's like the Klansmen who assert that Jesus could not have been Jewish. Their stupidity reaches the point of "Awwwwwwww. Kind of cute." before you realize just how dangerous such stupidity actually is. White Power. Black Athena. The Mexica Movement. Sad but disturbing in the revelations of the depths of human stupidity.

I can't say that I agree with the OP or the way he presented this thread but there may be "some" credence to his ranting....

Beta Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
History of the Jews in the African diaspora - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
African Jews - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To say that all Jews were Black (of African descent) is just ludicrous.

 

[gnomon]

I can't say that I agree with the OP or the way he presented this thread but there may be "some" credence to his ranting....

Beta Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
History of the Jews in the African diaspora - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
African Jews - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To say that all Jews were Black (of African descent) is just ludicrous.

None of these give credence to the OP.

Of course there are black Jews and that there is a long history of African Jews. The theory of Black Israel, as asserted by the OP, is one that proposes that the original Israelites were black and that it was whites who hijacked the culture. Some of these groups call Jews impostors. These are small black supremacist groups that are not the same as people we know who are Jews and happen to also be black. Different thing.

 

[connermt]

It is quickly becoming common knowledge to people waking up that the Israelites were indeed a black people. It is also understood that many (if not most or all) blacks of slave descent are Israelites as well.

Why is it that in light of such information, people have such a hard time accepting these facts?

What's even more amazing to me is that people still are concerned about the color of one's skin.....
Their character, yes. Skin color....really?

 

[Dirty Penguin]

None of these give credence to the OP.

Of course there are black Jews and that there is a long history of African Jews. The theory of Black Israel, as asserted by the OP, is one that proposes that the original Israelites were black and that it was whites who hijacked the culture. Some of these groups call Jews impostors. These are small black supremacist groups that are not the same as people we know who are Jews and happen to also be black. Different thing.

I totally agree....I wasn't trying to backup his claim..but pretty much dismissed it. There's certainly some historicity to black Jews....but nothing like what the OP asserts.

 

[Tbone]

It is quickly becoming common knowledge to people waking up that the Israelites were indeed a black people. It is also understood that many (if not most or all) blacks of slave descent are Israelites as well.

Why is it that in light of such information, people have such a hard time accepting these facts?

The simple fact is that if they were black "manna" would mean what it is, instead of what is it.