Sure it does.
BTW: as to the point you made about the shape of the Earth: the Quran uses the analogy of an ostrich egg to describe the shape of the Earth. Eggs are prolate spheroids, which are the *opposite* of oblate spheroids.
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Why can't some people understand that Evolution is not Atheism.
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BTW: as to the point you made about the shape of the Earth: the Quran uses the analogy of an ostrich egg to describe the shape of the Earth. Eggs are prolate spheroids, which are the *opposite* of oblate spheroids.
Well I have to go to work soon. But I will be happy to try to give a good in depth response when I get back. If they haven't already been answered by someone else.
But keep in mind I am not trying to get you to agree. It would be sufficient if I could just get you to understand.
WyattDerp
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Nature is beautiful, but not perfect by any standard. Why do we have an appendix? And while I'm not complaining: why do men have nipples?
camanintx
Well-Known Member
Apparently you're not that familiar with Einstein's Theory of Relativity.
Chapter 31. The Possibility of a “Finite” and Yet “Unbounded” Universe. Einstein, Albert. 1920. Relativity: The Special and General Theory
Are we talking about real science or your brand of hearsay armchair sciency stuff?
gnostic
The Lost One
ourcreed said:
It only make sense if only you were anthropomorphizing your god.
Which many Muslims and Christians often do, even though they are denying they are doing so.
Even the Qur'an describe Allah and the Bible describe God in such a way that resemble a "human", or his actions (or reactions) were like that of human would act. Both scriptures sometimes confined Allah with attributes, aspects and even emotions (like love, jealousy, compassion, wrath) of human.
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
One day God decided to create time. No time existed before that time, because God never had time to begin with. But that day, he did have time, and time was. Then God could create himself, and he was pleased with the result. :run:
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
WyattDerp
Active Member
Seriously though: if nature was created "perfect" and in an instant, how do some posters explain the appendix, or that men have nipples? I do think that's a valid question, and more things could be mentioned. I just don't want to go trying to find "flaws in nature", because I agree it's awesome in general. But "perfect" is kind of a hollow word. It's also heartless considering the people who are born with mild or super harsh deformations, if they're not born dead.
Sure, the theory of evolution doesn't have all the evidence for everything that ever happened, even 100s of millions of years ago, preserved perfectly. It explain "why is there something instead of nothing" either, it's just an attempt to explain and make sense of the facts, and the fossils, we find in the world. (After all, bacteria more or less evolve before our eyes, and understanding that is an issue of medicine, it's not an optional luxury of philosophy -- in other words, you can reject the theory of evolution, but you can't afford having doctors who don't at least use its fruits)
It's an imperfect, but at least honest attempt, and something like "it was all created perfectly, and more or less instantly, but then either adam and eve ate the wrong fruit, *or* something happened that nobody *really* knows exactly -- so that's why there is cancer and everything else that's bad or doesn't make sense" does not play in the same league.
Sure, the theory of evolution doesn't have all the evidence for everything that ever happened, even 100s of millions of years ago, preserved perfectly. It explain "why is there something instead of nothing" either, it's just an attempt to explain and make sense of the facts, and the fossils, we find in the world. (After all, bacteria more or less evolve before our eyes, and understanding that is an issue of medicine, it's not an optional luxury of philosophy -- in other words, you can reject the theory of evolution, but you can't afford having doctors who don't at least use its fruits)
It's an imperfect, but at least honest attempt, and something like "it was all created perfectly, and more or less instantly, but then either adam and eve ate the wrong fruit, *or* something happened that nobody *really* knows exactly -- so that's why there is cancer and everything else that's bad or doesn't make sense" does not play in the same league.
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I created a new thread to deal with the question of how something like the eye could evolve.But our common ancestor was working according to the theory,otherwise how evolution worked.
So our ancestor was working and the natural selection selected it,so what happened next.
i got no problem with adaptation or slight changes but to evovle from simple primitive organism to a complicated one as humans.
its like having a bike and after a million year it evolved to Porsch 2013 without human intervention,sounds crazy.
What makes the primitive organism to possess eyes,ears,nose...etc without accepting supernatural power to be envolved for such perfect design.
The primitive organism got no power to make such amazing things neither the unconscious nature.
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/evolution-vs-creationism/146461-evolution-eye.html
I am sure we can provide you with all the information you need, in simple terms or in as much exacting scientific detail as you want. And from legitimate sources. If you are interested.
(I decided the rest of your post was just retoric and I am not interested in dealing with it.)
gnostic
The Lost One
willamena said:
No, theory IS NOT JUST a DESCRIPTION.
It is more of an EXPLANATION, allowing for scientists, aspiring scientists and ordinary people the bridge of knowledge and understanding of the observable and natural (or even artificial) phenomenon.
A theory is an accepted or verified hypothesis, that meet most, if not all the requirements of Scientific Method, and has been rigorously and repeatedly tested, or evidences found to support the hypothesis.