why can't we have a relationship with other men?

[AmbiguousGuy]

Wouldnt that put them on the same level as humans?

Sometimes I think bonobos are way ahead of us. Why do we have this hangup about openly trading sexual favors for various other cargo and services?

I think we think too much and get all weird sometimes.

 

[Brickjectivity]

I think that is going too far, because you shouldn't be required to have sex. Suppose you are late on your rent. No one should be able to force you to have sex in lieu of rent. That isn't cool, because sex affects your sense of self worth.

 

[AmbiguousGuy]

I think that is going too far, because you shouldn't be required to have sex. Suppose you are late on your rent. No one should be able to force you to have sex in lieu of rent. That isn't cool, because sex affects your sense of self worth.

I'm not saying anyone should be able to force you. I'm saying that if you want to pay your rent with sex, why not be able to do so?

Sex doesn't affect my sense of self worth. I'd be a lot happier doing a quickie sexual favor for the landlady than working for two weeks in a salt mine for it. Heck, I might even boast a little about it.

Unfortunately, no one seems to want to pay for my sexual services. Plus, the business-suited prudes in DC have actually made it illegal!

What a mixed up world this is.

 

[Penumbra]

I don't mean like doing orgies and wicked stuff like that. But why can't we make love to people of our gender. I don't get it. I am attracted to men.

You gotta do what you gotta do, bro.

 

[Penumbra]

the reason i say unatural is because the whole reason for sex is to reproduce, by our very design thats what we are created to do sexually.

sure people can fool around if they choose, with the same sex, thats their choice and right.

however call it normal if you will, its not, if your born with no legs yes nature made you that way but its certainly not the norm, being born a certain way does not make it normal.

I don't necessarily view Buddhism as normal or physically natural but if what you're doing isn't hurting anyone, then all the power to you.

nothing to do with the Abrahamic religions, lets simplify it, strip a man and a woman down, look them over from an alien point of view.

its obvious what they are by the nature of their design created for, nature not religion.

Let's strip a celibate Buddhist monk down, look him over from an alien point of view.

It's obvious, based on his having reproductive organs, that he's designed to reproduce. Yet for some reason he elects not to. Pretty unnatural, right?

Works both ways.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I don't mean like doing orgies and wicked stuff like that. But why can't we make love to people of our gender. I don't get it. I am attracted to men.

Might I suggest you find another religion that is accepting of how you naturally are, rather than one that condemns you for being human? There is certainly nothing wrong with being homosexual or bisexual and loving other men. The world could do with more love in it.

Just a suggestion.

 

[Gaura Priya]

one of my closest friends had a sex change,I tell him or her now the same thing.

Just to clarify, people who change their sex aren't "gay" they are transsexual, and it is a medical and psychological term, and considered a neurological birth defect that can only be treated through hormones and a sexual reassignment surgery.

People who are transsexual have either a female brain with a male body, or a male brain with a female body. When they grow up, they become depressed because of this physical and neurological problem, and their brains do not fit the way their bodies developped. By changing, they become happier and themselves.

If a man changes into a woman... and she loves a man, she is straight. Or if a woman changes into a man, and then marries a woman, he is also straight.

 

[fantome profane]

the reason i say unatural is because the whole reason for sex is to reproduce, by our very design thats what we are created to do sexually.

sure people can fool around if they choose, with the same sex, thats their choice and right.

however call it normal if you will, its not, if your born with no legs yes nature made you that way but its certainly not the norm, being born a certain way does not make it normal.

There is no reason in nature except what the assign to it. There is no purpose in nature save what purpose we choose. We are not "designed for" anything, because put bluntly we were not designed.

People use sex for reproduction, that the their reason for doing it. Some use sex for emotional bonding. That is their reason, that is their purpose. Others use sex for pleasure, stress relief etc.

People even use sex for domination, to humiliate, to destroy.

Some of these purposes are good, some not. But none of these purposes are intended by nature, nature does not intend.

 

[mayuboar]

no one has yet told me what makes someone attracted to the same sex.

i dont believe you all know because despite being gay you all cannot say why you are, other then you are attracted to the same,no s@#t, but why.

 

[mayuboar]

question, if a man and a bonobo monkey are attracted to each other, and are both willing, is it ok for them to have sex.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

question, if a man and a bonobo monkey are attracted to each other, and are both willing, is it ok for them to have sex.

If you can honestly claim consent on the part of the bonobo, sure. As far as I know though, it's hard to prove consent from something that can't speak your language unless they initiate it.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

no one has yet told me what makes someone attracted to the same sex.

i dont believe you all know because despite being gay you all cannot say why you are, other then you are attracted to the same,no s@#t, but why.

Hormones, mainly. What else could possibly fuel attraction?

 

[mayuboar]

Hormones, mainly. What else could possibly fuel attraction?

exactly, and if we are born with male and female organs, and the hormones are there to fuel the attraction to use those male organs on a female.

what makes one attracted to the same sex, looking at a persons anatomy its obvious who goes with who and what goes where.

so right or wrong, there is a flaw in that persons chemical make up yes.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

exactly, and if we are born with male and female organs, and the hormones are there to fuel the attraction to use those male organs on a female.

what makes one attracted to the same sex, looking at a persons anatomy its obvious who goes with who and what goes where.

so right or wrong, there is a flaw in that persons chemical make up yes.

Yes, though I know many wouldn't call them flaws...not that I care. Why does it matter though?

 

[Father Heathen]

Want to know what else is unnatural? Wearing clothes and glasses, using technology, etc.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Want to know what else is unnatural? Wearing clothes and glasses, using technology, etc.

Hehe..."unnatural". As though that means anything.

 

[mayuboar]

Yes, though I know many wouldn't call them flaws...not that I care. Why does it matter though?

If you read back i have no problem with same sex relationships, I think if they feel it they should embrace it.
but it should be aknowledged that there is something wrong with them, I have a mild form of epilepsy, therefore my brain is not functioning normaly, it has a fault.
take note, not normal.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

If you read back i have no problem with same sex relationships, I think if they feel it they should embrace it.
but it should be aknowledged that there is something wrong with them, I have a mild form of epilepsy, therefore my brain is not functioning normaly, it has a fault.
take note, not normal.

Not normal, but not wrong.

 

[Ken Brown]

I don't mean like doing orgies and wicked stuff like that. But why can't we make love to people of our gender. I don't get it. I am attracted to men.

Hi davidthegreek, I guess the easiest way to explain this is to say that IF G-d would be inclined to have sex with His same gender, then none of us would even exist today. KB

 

[AmbiguousGuy]

If you read back i have no problem with same sex relationships, I think if they feel it they should embrace it.
but it should be aknowledged that there is something wrong with them, I have a mild form of epilepsy, therefore my brain is not functioning normaly, it has a fault.
take note, not normal.

I know people with genius IQs. Their brains do not function normally, but I don't see that as a fault.

Same with gay people. Not normal, not faulty.