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Why Commemorate the Death of Jesus?

Etritonakin

Well-Known Member
The biblical holy day of Passover foreshadowed and now commemorates Christ's sacrifice and death in our stead.

1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

The non-biblical Easter (Ishtar/Astarte) is a re-packaged pagan observance and also subtly shifts focus from his sacrifice to his resurrection.
It also subtly shifts focus from the Father to Christ. Christ humbled and sacrificed himself to bring us to the Father.
His resurrection was not as significant as his death -as he only returned to his former state, but now worthy to reign because of his sacrifice, etc.
His death allows our future resurrection, but we should still focus on making our lives an acceptable sacrifice rather than what we can eventually get.

Much understanding of God's plan is lost when the biblical holy days are not kept.

Many focus on Christ, but still focus on worldly things or their own future rather than becoming like Christ and doing that which pleases the Father regardless of consequence.
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
Ok but I can honestly say that it does help. I have seen it repeatedly in my practice before I retired. However, you are absolutely free to not believe me. I can understand that.
I do believe you and I guess I don't blame them although the concept of heaven is a dilemma in itself .
God forbid it's not true an we spend the last moments with our loved ones talking fables .
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Why not celebrate His death? That is a par of His life. You can't have life and resurrection without his crucifixion. They all go together.
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
Many focus on Christ, but still focus on worldly things or their own future rather than becoming like Christ and doing that which pleases the Father regardless of consequence.
I'd like to storm offices of Goldman overturn few tables you know those gambling moneychangers now rule the world .
Can't live like Christ in year 2015 bro only if ya can afford it .
 

Vishvavajra

Active Member
I'd say that's true on one level -- and it's a huge ethical problem. Many Xtians are preoccupied with their own salvation, rather than concerned with taking others down off of their crosses. BUT -- at the same time, most Xtians do exhibit love through acts of justice, compassion, and mercy. So, while you're statement is true to an extent, it is unfair, because it fails to take under consideration other factors of the Xian life.
Care to start a movement to oppose Hinayana Christianity? ;)

I agree it is a huge problem and betrays a lack of understanding of the teachings.
 

Etritonakin

Well-Known Member
I'd like to storm offices of Goldman overturn few tables you know those gambling moneychangers now rule the world .
Can't live like Christ in year 2015 bro only if ya can afford it .

You can live like Christ, but you might fare similarly.
Whether you can afford it or not is the wrong perspective, given that obedience to God's commandments in this time will increasingly lead to difficulty buying and selling.

Anyway -in that particular case, that was his Father's house -we don't have the same authority.

People who are now in authority should definitely do the right thing when possible -and we all have options which can make a positive difference.

Believers in God need not worry about who rules the world.
 
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JoStories

Well-Known Member
I do believe you and I guess I don't blame them although the concept of heaven is a dilemma in itself .
God forbid it's not true an we spend the last moments with our loved ones talking fables .
Being brutally honest, what difference does it make? Whether it is 'fables' or not is irrelevant. If it gives the dying person peace, what harm is there in that?
 
Very interesting observation considering that the birth and resurrection have zero impact on the doctrine of salvation. It was the death of christ, and the availability of his blood for bathing that supposedly provided salvation. The resurrection was given as an undeniable, incontrovertible, proof, of his divinity.

Yet, it is denied all the time. According to xtian doctrine, believing christ rose doesn't get you into heaven. Bathing in his blood disguises you as christ, so god doesn't see the filthy, disgusting (perfect creation) you really are. He sees his perfect son. The resurrection is nothing more than incontrovertible, undeniable proof of his divinity.

what do you mean when you say "Bathing in his blood disguises you as christ, so god doesn't see the filthy, disgusting (perfect creation) you really are. "?
 

FunctionalAtheist

Hammer of Reason
what do you mean when you say "Bathing in his blood disguises you as christ, so god doesn't see the filthy, disgusting (perfect creation) you really are. "?
As adam sinned we are all sinners; original sin; and unfit to be redeemed on our own merits in anyway; we are unfit to be in the presence of god; if we appeared in his presence we would be destroyed; In the OT only the priests, after suitable ceremonial cleansing, were permitted to enter the tabernacle and serve as go-betweens between the people and god; In the NT, god sacrificed the blood of Jesus for a sacrifice; similar to the passover, if one marks himself with the blood of christ; the vengeance of the lord will passover him; so god can not tolerate the pigs that we are, but his love is so great, that he will pour his son's blood on us so that he can tolerate us.

This is fairly clear when one read Paul.
 
As adam sinned we are all sinners; original sin; and unfit to be redeemed on our own merits in anyway; we are unfit to be in the presence of god; if we appeared in his presence we would be destroyed; In the OT only the priests, after suitable ceremonial cleansing, were permitted to enter the tabernacle and serve as go-betweens between the people and god; In the NT, god sacrificed the blood of Jesus for a sacrifice; similar to the passover, if one marks himself with the blood of christ; the vengeance of the lord will passover him; so god can not tolerate the pigs that we are, but his love is so great, that he will pour his son's blood on us so that he can tolerate us.

This is fairly clear when one read Paul.



your observations are very interesting)
I hope the phrase "he will pour his son's blood on us " is figurative here?))
 
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