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Why didn't god come now?

logician

logician

Well-Known Member
As an adjunct to another thread.

For those that believe that a god can appear as a man, wouldn't it have been wiser to have appeared today in this modern age of communications where all could instantly see and believe, and scientific tests could be run to prove that god was god?

Why come thousands of years ago, when the recording of history was at best unreliable, and most of the world would not know of your existence?

What was god thinking?
 
Madhuri

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
From a Hindu perspective it works out fine. The average person did not recognise an avatar to be Divine and there was a purpose in that. There is a purpose in the struggles and variety of beliefs. The meaning of our existence is not to idolise some deity. If that's what God wanted, we'd be with Him/Her/It already. The purpose of our existence is to evolve to our greatest capacity until we realise that God is everything. We can't grow without struggle and experience. It wouldn't happen if God just appeared. We'd be drone servants, nothing more.
 
Skwim

Skwim

Veteran Member
Who would believe such a person? Those who have tried* have been readily dismissed, if not ignored. They may convince a few, but that's about all. No, claiming to be the son of god was a much easier sell back then. As any carny barker knows, you play to your target audience, which in cases like this is the uneducated and unsophisticated.





* Lists HERE and HERE.
 
fallingblood

fallingblood

Agnostic Theist
If we are talking about Jesus, and assume he really was God, there would be a couple of reasons. First, the time was ripe for God to seek out a new covenant. He wanted to spread his religion to a larger audience. He deemed the time to be right then.

Second, religion is highly based on faith. If God came to Earth now, there would be very little need for faith. If you notice one of the key ideas in the New Testament is that one needs faith. So it would make sense to come at a different time when it isn't as easy to spread information.
 
dogsgod

dogsgod

Well-Known Member
I don't think it makes much difference, people believe now on faith just as much as they did back then. Some large religions began in recent years such Scientology and Latter Day Saints.
 
Politesse

Politesse

Amor Vincit Omnia
Jesus is the son of humanity, and so not gone in the first place. Did he not say, "If you have aided the poor, the destitute, the homeless, the incarcerated, then you have aided me"? He then believes that he has not left. You do not agree, I am sure, but from a Christian perspective, another incarnation would be kind of unnecessary. And something of a mental trap, really. It's easy to say, "if only I were to have an answered prayer/talk to a burning bush/witness a miracle/meet Jesus, I would believe." But really, it's not true. Those who did meet Jesus were as often disappointed or offended as enlightened and awed. He was not, for instance, in the business of trying to prove that he was such and such to so and so. He went about his work, and he taught, but he did not waste time trying to impress people with light shows. If he were to "come again", he wouldn't care about rigorous scientific proofs of his nature, if such could be devised anyway, given that the whole point was that he was of our nature as much as of the divine. It seems true that one just hasn't "seen enough", but it usually comes down to a matter of asking the wrong questions, not getting the wrong answers.
 
Noaidi

Noaidi

slow walker
fallingblood said:
Second, religion is highly based on faith. If God came to Earth now, there would be very little need for faith. If you notice one of the key ideas in the New Testament is that one needs faith. So it would make sense to come at a different time when it isn't as easy to spread information.
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Religion is based on faith, yes, but we would still have the choice whether to follow that god or not. We would all be believers, but not necessarily all followers. And it's followers that gods want.
 
B

Beta

Well-Known Member
logician said:
As an adjunct to another thread.

For those that believe that a god can appear as a man, wouldn't it have been wiser to have appeared today in this modern age of communications where all could instantly see and believe, and scientific tests could be run to prove that god was god?

Why come thousands of years ago, when the recording of history was at best unreliable, and most of the world would not know of your existence?

What was god thinking?
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JESUS CHRIST (God in the flesh) will appear a second time not far hence .
His first appearance on earth was to take the sins of mankind upon himself and die for us (those who believe).
His second appearance is to bring the fulfillment of salvation to believers (eternal life in a resurrection).Heb.9v28
 
McBell

McBell

Unbound
logician said:
As an adjunct to another thread.

For those that believe that a god can appear as a man, wouldn't it have been wiser to have appeared today in this modern age of communications where all could instantly see and believe, and scientific tests could be run to prove that god was god?

Why come thousands of years ago, when the recording of history was at best unreliable, and most of the world would not know of your existence?

What was god thinking?
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God was needed back then to explain, well almost everything.
 
no-body

no-body

Well-Known Member
Politesse said:
Jesus is the son of humanity, and so not gone in the first place. Did he not say, "If you have aided the poor, the destitute, the homeless, the incarcerated, then you have aided me"? He then believes that he has not left. You do not agree, I am sure, but from a Christian perspective, another incarnation would be kind of unnecessary. And something of a mental trap, really. It's easy to say, "if only I were to have an answered prayer/talk to a burning bush/witness a miracle/meet Jesus, I would believe." But really, it's not true. Those who did meet Jesus were as often disappointed or offended as enlightened and awed. He was not, for instance, in the business of trying to prove that he was such and such to so and so. He went about his work, and he taught, but he did not waste time trying to impress people with light shows. If he were to "come again", he wouldn't care about rigorous scientific proofs of his nature, if such could be devised anyway, given that the whole point was that he was of our nature as much as of the divine. It seems true that one just hasn't "seen enough", but it usually comes down to a matter of asking the wrong questions, not getting the wrong answers.
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I really hate that argument. If God appeared before me and talked to me I would believe. He's frigging God.

What I get from the rest of what your saying is that the enemy of Christianity is logic and reason. Blind faith means more to God than using your brain.
 
sandandfoam

sandandfoam

Veteran Member
logician said:
As an adjunct to another thread.

For those that believe that a god can appear as a man, wouldn't it have been wiser to have appeared today in this modern age of communications where all could instantly see and believe, and scientific tests could be run to prove that god was god?

Why come thousands of years ago, when the recording of history was at best unreliable, and most of the world would not know of your existence?
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Especially for you - here is god incarnate as a man and walking (kind of) on water
valentino-rossi-fiat-yamaha-rain-motegi-560x375.jpg
 
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