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Why do Americans hate Hillary so much?

james dixon

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I believe a fetus is not a human being until it breaths "air" on it's own. That may seen cruel to you but life begins at birth, not before in my view :)-
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
So in your own words abortion is "Murder"



So then since you used the term "abortion" means "murder" then I must also assume you mean murder and abort in the same context. Therefore
I re-right yor post interchanging the terme you used



right or wrong?, you tell me :)-
At the moment there are legal forms of abortion and illegal forms of abortion. I believe we can abort Hillary Clinton without breaking any laws.
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
Should the law be changed in your view?

just asking :)-
If the law was changed, I believe more people might just get what they deserve. But I also believe there is something to be said of mercy and grace. We don't have to give everyone what they deserve. We can and we probably should have mercy that is full of grace, and forgive others when possible, even those who are deserving of death.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Abortion is definitely a touchy subject believe me I know. Even in looking at the issues, left vs right, abortion is the only one in which the country currently leans more right. So I am well aware of the arguments, which as I mentioned, I disagree with your opinion on. Not even so much that I disagree with the stance of abortion but rather, I disagree on subjecting women to my own personal bias.

I am for the Hyde amendment and Kain is/was as well. Abortion is more non-partisan than people realize however there are only religious sentimental arguments for it. The reality is that every conception is a random fluke and as such any birth can be treated as such, short of calling god a murderer for still births.

No it isn't a "fact" that fetuses have lawful rights as that of birthed human beings. Heck depending on who you talk to that would depend on the gender of the baby or depend on human population density.

Then you end it with pro abortion in regards to Hillary Oy vey!
It looks to be about 50/50 as of May 2016.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Murder is not a medical decision. Medical decisions involve actions to save lives, not to destroy lives. Abortions are not about saving lives. All abortions result in the killing of innocent human life. And we should never have to pay for that.
It's not murder. It is a medical decision. You're not killing innocent human life when removing a dead fetus from a woman's uterus - you're saving a life. Remember, we're talking about "partial birth abortions."

Your tax dollars don't pay for abortions.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
You do not know that aborting children results in "a little soul off to Heaven, without risk...
The Bible tells a different story.

Psalm 51:5. "Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me."

Psalm 58:3. "Even from birth the wicked go astray; from the womb they are wayward and speak lies".

Romans 3:22-23. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus."

And here is what the Apostle Paul had to say:
1 Corinthians 7:14. "For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy."

Do you see it? The Apostle Paul believed that a child is holy and acceptable to God if he has a believing mother, or a believing father. Do you really believe that it is safe to say that all unborn children go to heaven if murdered? Does being murdered wash away the filth?

Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven.”

Why would Jesus make such a statement? Is it really possible for us to hinder a child from coming to Christ? Does abortion hinder children from coming to Christ? Do you know the answer to these questions?
Does that seem just or merciful to you?
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
Yes, children that do not obey their mothers and fathers, that do not hearken to parents discipline deserve to be stoned to death.
Anyone who attacks his mother or father deserves to be put to death.

So life isn't sacred to you at all. Just some grotesque twisting of Scripture to justify your intolerance and impatience. Women who have abortions have nothing on you.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
=== Non-moderator caution ===
Let's keep it about the issues, & avoid negative personal commentary.
We don't want knuckles rapped, posts poofed, or threads locked.
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
It's not murder. It is a medical decision. You're not killing innocent human life when removing a dead fetus from a woman's uterus - you're saving a life. Remember, we're talking about "partial birth abortions."

Your tax dollars don't pay for abortions.
You are talking about partial birth abortions.
What we are talking about is why Americans hate Hillary so much...remember...the topic of this thread?
And yes our tax dollars do pay for abortions.
And if Hillary Clinton is elected, more of our tax dollars will fund abortions.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
You are talking about partial birth abortions.
What we are talking about is why Americans hate Hillary so much...remember...the topic of this thread?
And yes our tax dollars do pay for abortions.
And if Hillary Clinton is elected, more of our tax dollars will fund abortions.
If you didn't want to talk about "partial birth abortions" then I wonder why you bothered commenting on my post in the first place, given that's what I was talking about with another poster.


How is it that your tax dollars pay for abortions?
 

james dixon

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Yes, children that do not obey their mothers and fathers, that do not hearken to parents discipline deserve to be stoned to death.

You just advocated the killing (murder) of ones own children {period}

The Devil grinned and gave out a great laugh when he heard your words, knowing he will see you again in time

Now, I cannot advocate taking such actions in our society today. That would be illegal.

You just did :)-
 
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