Why do atheist believe something can come from nothing?

[leov]

Which links to atheism how? Read the article... nothing about atheism in there. Interesting... I think I am beginning to understand more how your mind works, and I have to say - I don't like it.

Keep researching, if you are serious. I am not going to make conclusion .

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

It is evidence, fwiw, you can hang any label on it. Atheism was abnormal in humanity, still is, no matter what atheism claims.

If your point is that humans in general have a tendency to be religious, then your point is correct.

If your point is that because atheists are a minority, therefor theism is correct, then you are engaging in fallacious reasoning - argument from popularity in particular.

 

[leov]

If your point is that humans in general have a tendency to be religious, then your point is correct.

If your point is that because atheists are a minority, therefor theism is correct, then you are engaging in fallacious reasoning - argument from popularity in particular.

There is anatomical reason. We have organs to sense spiritual 'broadcast', organs that too many lost function of or in a process of losing. 99.99% of us.

 

[leov]

Keep researching, if you are serious. I am not going to make conclusion .

https://www.pnas.org/content/99/25/15904

"Air pollution induces heritable DNA mutations " just keep counting pollution that affected us

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

I hope you know how materialism affect spirituality.

Indeed..... how, exactly? Be specific. What is this "spirituality" and is it reality based? Or is it magic based?

So far-- magic has never been a valid hypothesis.

 

[ChristineM]

That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God.

Albert Einstein​

So you are saying Einstein was correct in his though that god is of the mind?

 

[leov]

Indeed..... how, exactly? Be specific. What is this "spirituality" and is it reality based? Or is it magic based?

So far-- magic has never been a valid hypothesis.

To simplify it, just a dimension of different density. Magic? Who knows?

 

[ChristineM]

Interesting that you think that doesn't matter since many here think Trump's comments about the Central Park 5 in 1989 is still relevant...as do I.

No matter. It's your choice to disbelieve that Dawkins remains the same 7 years later. In fact, he's been awful quiet lately. Probably spending his money. LOL

I have no thoughts on trump other than he is an slimy american gropy boy

I did provide dawkins own words, so who cares what haters think

What you seem to be saying is that freedom of speech is fine for those you agree with?

As for spending his money, he has a long, long way to go before he can match your lot.


Kenneth Copeland, Pat Robertson, Benny Hinn, Joel Osteen ring any bells on where the good believers half a billion dollars have gone

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

Keep researching, if you are serious. I am not going to make conclusion .

You're obviously not to be taken seriously. I am confident that you could not convincingly link the disparate sources I positively KNOW you would cite as "evidence" for your wild claims even if you tried. Which is why you aren't going to try.

There is basically nothing to research, honestly. I mean seriously - what am I going to search for? Articles pertaining to atheism being a symptom of a "deteriorated" mind? Give me a damn break.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

There is anatomical reason. We have organs to sense spiritual 'broadcast', organs that too many lost function of or in a process of losing. 99.99% of us.

Citation needed.

 

[Audie]

Citation needed.

You sure that is what is needed, with such garbage?

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Yes, it is simply the disbelief in the theory of there being no god, nothing more or less.

Congratulations! You have invented a sentence that is internally self-refuting.

That is to say, the sentence above, as written, has no usable meaning. It's akin to saying "1 - 1" except it's not even that useful.

Worse-- it relates to nothing in actual reality, as is commonly known.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I think you mistyped the thread title.

I think it should read, "Why do Theists believe something can come from Nothing?"

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Blah de blah de blah. Are we talking about God or your grandmother's underpants?
Strawmaning the topic is inexcusable, yet you seem to think that a strawman is validation of your position, this is hilarious. Can you do anything else than strawman people?

Do you have an argument here or are you just going to continue defending your use of fallacies?

I see your methodology here, this is wonderful. Fallacies on top of fallacies on top of fallacies prove that fallacies are sound logic.
Placing a non-sequitur and an appeal-to-ridicule on top of two Strawman's does not make your position valid.

Are you now admitting God after that 'leaning tower of Pisa' of fallacy-stacking? that is what I would call an ambitious feat!

No wonder you don't

You are, of course, welcome to be as flippant and rude as you'd like, if you think it helps your argument. I don't, frankly.

Meanwhile, it is most certainly not a strawman. You made a rather specific claim about "God" which you cannot know, which is not settled fact, and which a great many people disagree with. ("God is neither subject or object, it is the source behind the existence of those quantities. When there is no subject or object, then there is only God.") That this happens to be your opinion, your belief, even your faith is neither here nor there when it comes to whether it can be said to be a factual statement.

The rest of what I said, to which you enjoyed responding so rudely, is also true. You yourself suggested that to "know God" you must put a lot of "thought into the concept of God." And yet I maintain that is entirely inadequate. Whatever conclusions you might come to are based on:
what other people thought and wrote about God
what you think about what they wrote

Nothing, not a single thing, is based on any actual study or examination of God itself, and as a result, it is entirely possible to come to any conclusions that seem good to you, as so many others have done and seem good to them, though strangely, they are often so very different.

You are perfectly welcome not to like my thoughts and my viewpoints, but do yourself a favour: try to be a little less rude. It really doesn't look good on you, and does nothing to advance your case.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

No, Theists just reject the positive claim that there is no god. Theists do not rationally think there is sufficient evidence to the belief of that claim; the speculative theory of 'no god'. If we found evidence for the that claim then we would start believing the Atheist belief system.

Don't you just love it when people tell you what you believe, instead of just asking?

 

[Audie]

Don't you just love it when people tell you what you believe, instead of just asking?
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Crows or course ignore scarecrows.

 

[Thief]

So you are saying Einstein was correct in his though that god is of the mind?

and all believers have an ….idea.....about God's form

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

It only says what one is capable to understand.

 

[Thief]

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maybe God.....doesn't give a damn

and later on.....He will

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

It something that belong to the entire humanity, our intuition abilities deteriorate due to epigenetic changes due to pollutions, sugar intake , and many more factors, some people deteriorate faster than other. So atheists are the fastest...

Citation needed. Conjecture. Projection of yet another strawman...