Audie
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Could this explain it?
You went straight to Hitler!
Godwin's law says you are out. Go.
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Could this explain it?
Entire ancient world. Third eye, e.t.c. 90+ of all humans living and who lived before were theists.Evidence?
Genesis is coded but says essentially the same. It is not true science book, just some hints.
That is not evidence; it is an argument ad populum...Entire ancient world. Third eye, e.t.c. 90+ of all humans living and who lived before were theists.
Well larry krauss did try to make a statement of physics of "out of nothing" that was panned as being garbage for good reasons. You pretty much summed it up though.Atheists basically follow science concerning the nature of our physical existence, therefore almost all scientists regardless of religious belief and atheist do not believe our physical existence came from 'absolute nothing' regardless of whether there is only one universe of an infinite number of universe.
It is basically 'some' theists that believe the our physical existence was Created from 'absolute nothing.' Some scientist have describe the 'Quantum World' as the nothing that universes originate from, but this is not the 'philosophical absolute nothing' of theist views.
If anything the atheists as well as many if not most scientists believe the physical existence is most likely eternal and did not come from anything.
The video is udder nonsense.
Well true.. Micky mouse lives in nothing land so maybe mickey mouse is the causality.Who says that there was never something?
It is evidence, fwiw, you can hang any label on it. Atheism was abnormal in humanity, still is, no matter what atheism claims.That is not evidence; it is an argument ad populum...
Argumentum ad populum - Wikipedia
We have organs of communication with spirit, many have them deeply suppressed.
Not really anything. Suggest to read Nachmanides, he proves using OT text, that it is not mean absolutely nothing, and Fabre d'Olivet's literal Hebrew translation saying that creation of Gen 1was in principle only, I.e. as a plan. Nachmanides basically says the same, e.g. living creatures were created as a life force future potentiality.Ahh, right. Its coded to say just what you want it to say?
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
It dont look coded to me, it looks very much like it says 'the earth was without form, and void;'. But i could be wrong, what is the uncoded version?
FYI
Void : completely empty.
I.e. nothing, no atoms, no light no quantum material... Nothing
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BTW, the bible is not even a pretend science book
Don't deal with evil spirits.You are possessed by an evil spirit we call the unconscious mind. The unconscious mind is quite happy to provide you with all the communication to the spirit world you desire.
Not really anything. Suggest to read Nachmanides, he proves using OT text, that it is not mean absolutely nothing, and Fabre d'Olivet's literal Hebrew translation saying that creation of Gen 1was in principle only, I.e. as a plan. Nachmanides basically says the same, e.g. living creatures were created as a life force future potentiality.
Could this explain it?
I am not arguing with you. You see it from literal point, for example, and from literal point of view you are correct. Nachmanides talked about 49 ways of understanding, according to spiritual standing. So, I received that I can not argue about it.Interesting, i am an atheist and take the bible as written. People who believe the bible use all sorts of tricks to make it mean what they want.
My suggestion if you want to know what the bible actually says is read the bible.
I am not arguing with you. You see it from literal point, for example, and from literal point of view you are correct. Nachmanides talked about 49 ways of understanding, according to spiritual standing. So, I received that I can not argue about it.
I don't think there was ever a 'nothing'. That the big bang was simply the beginning of universal expansion, but was not the beginning of all movement, matter and energy.
Why do atheist believe something can come from nothing?
The above is a good question.
Regards
Look into PARDES meditation, for example.Literal is the only way to read it .what is the point of making it up? Its there in black and white
Look into PARDES meditation, for example.