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why do ghost wear clothes?If clothes isn't made of spirit?

Tinkerpeach

Active Member
Well this is the problem with modern technology, and even worse now that deepfakes has come along. Unless personally experienced and verified not to have come from some natural phenomena how is anyone else to know? But such things are passed on as being factual regardless. I don't like bringing this up, but the case recently of a TV recorder, or such, switching itself on for no apparent reason and claimed to be a message from a dead husband is just one such piece of supposed evidence - when all other possible explanations were simply not explored. A search of the internet for similar events might show several explanations as to why such happened without recourse to paranormal explanations.
I’ve investigated hundreds of places over the years, I’m hired to find the explanations for them, and almost every time they can be logically explained so they are not common.

Once in awhile you do get that event that can’t be scientifically explained so therefore have to look beyond science.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I’ve investigated hundreds of places over the years, I’m hired to find the explanations for them, and almost every time they can be logically explained so they are not common.

Once in awhile you do get that event that can’t be scientifically explained so therefore have to look beyond science.
Until the next scientific explanation for such?
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Possibly but I am pretty good at finding causes.

I always go in as a skeptic, that’s why I get hired actually so it’s rare that I can’t find an explanation.
I have an explanation as to why some people believe more readily than others - they are more gullible. o_O
 

Lekatt

Member
Premium Member
Spirits or ghosts in the spiritual world are balls of energy. They have no shape, but can take any shape including a person with clothes. No one would recognize them as friends or loved ones it they didn't take the shape they had in their previous life. Spirits are neither male nor female, there is no sex in the spirit world. We are all the same, no color differences, no age differences, and no language differences. The mind communicates to the mind.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Spirits or ghosts in the spiritual world are balls of energy. They have no shape, but can take any shape including a person with clothes. No one would recognize them as friends or loved ones it they didn't take the shape they had in their previous life. Spirits are neither male nor female, there is no sex in the spirit world. We are all the same, no color differences, no age differences, and no language differences. The mind communicates to the mind.
Perhaps balls are involved.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
I have an explanation as to why some people believe more readily than others - they are more gullible. o_O
And I have an explanation why some people are more resistant to the claims than others - attachment to a belief system.

I can say a fair assessment of all the cases and personal experiences has led me to believe that the paranormal does happen (things can fly across the room as in the @Tinkerpeach example phenomenon above). I can only say in my heart that I am not being too gullible nor too resistant.

And science of the future will probably explain these things but by that point science will include things like spirits, etheric planes, astral planes, etc..
 

Tinkerpeach

Active Member
Until the next scientific explanation for such?
Possibly but I am pretty good at finding causes.

I always go in as a skeptic, that’s why I get hired actually so it’s rare that I can’t find an explanation
I have an explanation as to why some people believe more readily than others - they are more gullible. o_O
I wouldn’t say it’s a belief as much as it is being open to possibilities that science cannot explain.

Where did this belief that spirits cannot exist come from? It’s certainly not based on anything tangible.

There have many, many things that were thought not to exist until it was found that they did so someone declaring that a spirit realm doesn’t exist is simply restricting their chances of possibly uncovering the truth
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Possibly but I am pretty good at finding causes.

I always go in as a skeptic, that’s why I get hired actually so it’s rare that I can’t find an explanation

I wouldn’t say it’s a belief as much as it is being open to possibilities that science cannot explain.

Where did this belief that spirits cannot exist come from? It’s certainly not based on anything tangible.

There have many, many things that were thought not to exist until it was found that they did so someone declaring that a spirit realm doesn’t exist is simply restricting their chances of possibly uncovering the truth
Where did such beliefs come from? Well, the origins no doubt are lost to us - as likely occurring long before any survivable recorded history. Given that such beliefs - as to some agency being behind various phenomena or something 'out there we can't pinpoint (spirit)' - will no doubt have been quite normal to assume for those who had little knowledge about themselves, let alone their environment. And presumably one reason why we have such a spectrum of religious beliefs that might have resulted from any earlier ones.

I'm sure any reasonable person is open to whatever truth emerges - just provide sufficient evidence is all that counts for some of us. And don't provide evidence to support an already formed belief - which is not my approach. I don't start with any beliefs other than we have to accept whatever makes the most sense with the evidence available. And, given I am not a scientist, I have to accept the majority view of scientists in most cases - where the paranormal is not accepted as part of science currently. But I accept I could be wrong on many things - just as I would hope others might be too.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
And I have an explanation why some people are more resistant to the claims than others - attachment to a belief system.

I can say a fair assessment of all the cases and personal experiences has led me to believe that the paranormal does happen (things can fly across the room as in the @Tinkerpeach example phenomenon above). I can only say in my heart that I am not being too gullible nor too resistant.

And science of the future will probably explain these things but by that point science will include things like spirits, etheric planes, astral planes, etc..
Fine for you. I'll be accepting such too when the appropriate evidence arrives. Until then, not so much.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Fine for you. I'll be accepting such too when the appropriate evidence arrives. Until then, not so much.
And fine for you apparently. We don't have to agree.

My approach is to ask: 'All things considered what is most reasonable to believe?'. After millions of cases reported by competent observers, including myself, my answer is that something dramatic and not yet understood by science (under the so-called blanket term of 'paranormal') seems to exist beyond reasonable doubt.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
And fine for you apparently. We don't have to agree.

My approach is to ask: 'All things considered what is most reasonable to believe?'. After millions of cases reported by competent observers, including myself, my answer is that something dramatic and not yet understood by science (under the so-called blanket term of 'paranormal') seems to exist beyond reasonable doubt.
The bold I believe too. Unfortunately I don't accept reports from individuals as being that good evidence, just as I don't for UFO sightings or anything similar.
 

Tinkerpeach

Active Member
Where did such beliefs come from? Well, the origins no doubt are lost to us - as likely occurring long before any survivable recorded history. Given that such beliefs - as to some agency being behind various phenomena or something 'out there we can't pinpoint (spirit)' - will no doubt have been quite normal to assume for those who had little knowledge about themselves, let alone their environment. And presumably one reason why we have such a spectrum of religious beliefs that might have resulted from any earlier ones.

I'm sure any reasonable person is open to whatever truth emerges - just provide sufficient evidence is all that counts for some of us. And don't provide evidence to support an already formed belief - which is not my approach. I don't start with any beliefs other than we have to accept whatever makes the most sense with the evidence available. And, given I am not a scientist, I have to accept the majority view of scientists in most cases - where the paranormal is not accepted as part of science currently. But I accept I could be wrong on many things - just as I would hope others might be too.
Maybe I will take you on an investigation sometime then. You never can tell who will run and who face whatever they may see, that’s one of the funniest parts for me.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
If you wanted to be seen by a living person, it might be most respectful if they made it so they were appearing to be clothed...
If that’s the case …..

then maybe these entities are not as ‘lost and confused’ as some of them like to make it appear?

I believe they’re not dead humans, but pretend to be; they have an ulterior motive in mind.

Centuries ago, there were reports of the living being confronted by spirits claiming to be dead humans, who asserted they were undergoing the pain of torment in fire (as in Hell), when such beliefs were common.
But now, the teaching of Hellfire isn’t promoted too much anymore, so there are less ‘spirits’ pretending that scenario.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Maybe I will take you on an investigation sometime then. You never can tell who will run and who face whatever they may see, that’s one of the funniest parts for me.
Well I doubt many would see me short of courage or resilience, but unless you are in the UK, this will likely not happen. :D
 

☆Dreamwind☆

Active Member
If it's a ghost you know, for example an elderly relative who recently passed on, they might be perceived as their loved ones last saw them.

As for strangers, I don't know if we're talking about intelligent hauntings, instead of residual. Maybe it's how they last saw themselves?

That's my serious answers.

My silly answer is, does anyone really wanna see a streaker ghost?
 
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