I can't tell if you're trying to make a joke or if you really do think that the Nobel Prize existed in the 1500s.
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Why do I only see this in Islam?
- Thread starter Spiderman
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I think the point is that the best science was done in the Islamic areas before Europe took over that mantle.
Notanumber
A Free Man
The big difference between Christianity and Islam is that unlike Muhammad, the Jesus of the Christians was not a warrior that used religion for his personal benefit.
Comparing Jesus and Muhammad, Christianity and Islam
Chapter Six
Comparing Jesus and Muhammad, Christianity and Islam
Chapter Six
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I provided where you can get the Buddhist story; Kony was current events a couple/few years ago (the Lord's Resistance Army is another good area to look at); and I really do hope you seriously don't need anyone to link you to Christians attacking abortion clinics; and though I couldn't find the Christians slaughtering Muslims I was referring to, I did find a much more recent occurrence of it:
http://religionnews.com/2017/05/14/...slim-civilians-in-central-african-republican/
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
What is more telling is that the former places of inquiry never even approached their former glory - to this very day. It's akin to a candle being blown out by a rather furious hurricane of ignorance.
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Rabbi David Rosen is a talented and respected rabbi, originally from the UK.
Since in some circles it seems to be more encouraged to spit on Christian clergymen than build bridges (this week's events in the Old City), Rabbi Rosen is unpopular with Eskin and his ilk.
Rabbi David Rosen
It has been Jerusalem's dirty little secret for decades: Orthodox yeshiva students and other Jewish residents vandalizing churches and spitting on Christian clergyman as they walk along the narrow, ancient stone streets of the Old City.
http://tinyurl.com/v7dbq
Christians say ultra-Orthodox Jewish students spit at them or at the ground when they pass. There have also been acts of vandalism against statues of the Virgin Mary.
Ultra-orthodox Jews 'must stop religious abuse'
You cannot find one incident where Muslims spit on Christians but you can find countless incidents where Orthodox Jews spit on Christians. Has the American press ever covered the above-?
Why do I only see this in Judaism?
The discussion here is about the pros & cons of Islam and/or their religious activities and I admit Judaism is not the topic and yet I felt the spitting below needs your attention as well.Rabbi David Rosen is a talented and respected rabbi, originally from the UK.
Since in some circles it seems to be more encouraged to spit on Christian clergymen than build bridges (this week's events in the Old City), Rabbi Rosen is unpopular with Eskin and his ilk.
Rabbi David Rosen
It has been Jerusalem's dirty little secret for decades: Orthodox yeshiva students and other Jewish residents vandalizing churches and spitting on Christian clergyman as they walk along the narrow, ancient stone streets of the Old City.
http://tinyurl.com/v7dbq
Christians say ultra-Orthodox Jewish students spit at them or at the ground when they pass. There have also been acts of vandalism against statues of the Virgin Mary.
Ultra-orthodox Jews 'must stop religious abuse'
You cannot find one incident where Muslims spit on Christians but you can find countless incidents where Orthodox Jews spit on Christians. Has the American press ever covered the above-?
Spiderman
Veteran Member
I was talking about killing people because of heresy in the OP
Lucian Hodoboc
Member
You lost me at "Christian militia". That's an oxymoron. There's no such thing, no matter what they claim. Real Christians do not engage in the military. Christ prohibited fighting your enemies. You can call yourself anything, but it doesn't mean that you actually are said thing.
No True Scotsman.
Thee people believe in the divinity of Jesus. They believe in the trinity. They believe in the foundational beliefs of Christianity as defined by Christians. To deny them as Christians is simply perverse.
EtuMalku
Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
You must be kidding . . .
"The Lord is a man of war; Yahweh is his name." – Exodus 15.3.
Deuteronomy
Going to War
1 When you go to war against your enemies and see horses and chariots and an army greater than yours, do not be afraid of them, because the Lord your God, who brought you up out of Egypt, will be with you.
2 When you are about to go into battle, the priest shall come forward and address the army.
3 He shall say: “Hear, Israel: Today you are going into battle against your enemies. Do not be fainthearted or afraid; do not panic or be terrified by them.
4 For the Lord your God is the one who goes with you to fight for you against your enemies to give you victory.”
5 The officers shall say to the army: “Has anyone built a new house and not yet begun to live in it? Let him go home, or he may die in battle and someone else may begin to live in it.
6 Has anyone planted a vineyard and not begun to enjoy it? Let him go home, or he may die in battle and someone else enjoy it.
7 Has anyone become pledged to a woman and not married her? Let him go home, or he may die in battle and someone else marry her.”
8 Then the officers shall add, “Is anyone afraid or fainthearted? Let him go home so that his fellow soldiers will not become disheartened too.”
9 When the officers have finished speaking to the army, they shall appoint commanders over it.
10 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace.
11 If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you.
12 If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city.
13 When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it.
14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies.
15 This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.
16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.
17 Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.
18 Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the Lord your God.
19 When you lay siege to a city for a long time, fighting against it to capture it, do not destroy its trees by putting an ax to them, because you can eat their fruit. Do not cut them down. Are the trees people, that you should besiege them?
20 However, you may cut down trees that you know are not fruit trees and use them to build siege works until the city at war with you falls.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Yep, getting spit on is so very equivalent with being murdered. Could you find any lower hanging fruit?
Spiderman
Veteran Member
It's rarely that I literally laugh out loud. Thanks
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
I admire your taste, @PopeADopeIt's rarely that I literally laugh out loud. Thanks
Saheim
New Member
Bad people do bad things.
I'm bettin if ya took those guys, who are beheading folks, and put them in a world where they were raised a Catholic, they'd find some Biblical justification to chop off some Protestant heads.
It is just what they're gonna do, the particular ideology they cling to is more moot than even they realize. They ain't killin folks cause the Q'uran says to, they're killin folks because it makes 'em feel good to.
Go into a low income/high crime neighborhood in the United States, most males there identify as "Christian" they also seem to like gang violence, robbery, and drugs. I doubt their behavior is driven by their faith.
I'm bettin if ya took those guys, who are beheading folks, and put them in a world where they were raised a Catholic, they'd find some Biblical justification to chop off some Protestant heads.
It is just what they're gonna do, the particular ideology they cling to is more moot than even they realize. They ain't killin folks cause the Q'uran says to, they're killin folks because it makes 'em feel good to.
Go into a low income/high crime neighborhood in the United States, most males there identify as "Christian" they also seem to like gang violence, robbery, and drugs. I doubt their behavior is driven by their faith.
Spiderman
Veteran Member
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
[Sarcasm]Yeah, I know, that happens all the time over here. Catholics beheading Protestants and vice versa... it's so commonplace that that is why you almost never hear about it. All you have to do is walk down the street and kick the heads out of your way. Someone should do something about the litter.[/sarcasm]
Untrue. The thing is they just find crazy imans who encourage their psychopathy. It's all in interpretation.
Agreed. Their faith isn't much to begin with however. Likewise there are not many priests, if any, who advocate the life of gang violence, robbery and drugs. So, false comparison and perhaps a bit racist too.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I'm pretty sure there is something in the Bible that only those without sin are supposed to judge, that human judgement is clouded by their own crap going on, and that only god can rightfully judge if someone is a Christian or not. I can just as easily say that you taking it upon yourself to do what is reserved exclusively for makes you no "real" Christian.
Spiderman
Veteran Member
I guess as a monotheist I'm very dissatisfied and disappointed with my Deity that he left so many passages in the Bible and Koran to stir up bigotry, intolerance, and violence.
I don't see how the ancient text is doing any more good than following one's conscience.
The history of monotheism is heartbreaking and depressing!
I don't see how the ancient text is doing any more good than following one's conscience.
The history of monotheism is heartbreaking and depressing!