Why do liberals and gay rights activists say that gay marriage is similar to interracial marriage?

[Debater Slayer]

So I am somehow at fault for them committing suicide, when they are the ones who chose to be that way?
To say I lack a heart or have no love again is a personal attack, and that's well your opinion your entitled to have.
Play the martyr? It works both ways, they chose to be gay so I cannot be blamed for their future outcome(s).

Your belief that they chose to be gay is nothing more than religiously inspired ignorance. Read more on the scientific consensus regarding this matter if you don't want your beliefs to come across as bigoted, hateful garbage that genuinely affects the lives of millions of people.

 

[columbus]

Hypothesis is not really evidence, it's an educated (GUESS) and in this case it's not even an educated guess.

As opposed to your unsupported assertion that it is a choice?
Tom

 

[Penumbra]

Outside of religious conservatism, the issue of equal rights for lgbt people, including to marry the person they love, is mostly settled in developed parts of the world, with some exceptions such as in Asia.

In the U.S. alone, the American Medical Association, American Psychiatric Association, American Psychological Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics, among others, all support marriage equality for lgbt people. So do similar professional bodies in many other developed countries. The relevant professional organizations do not consider gay conversion therapy to be an effective treatment, some going so far as to say that it is very harmful, and it is banned in some areas, because sexual orientation is largely outside of the realm of choice.

The rate of lgbt acceptance and rights worldwide is mostly correlated with education, with the more educated countries mostly being in favor and the least educated countries being mostly against.

The reason gay marriage is compared to interracial marriage is because it's essentially the same: People who have nothing to do with that particular marriage want to come in and block two consenting adults from getting married despite not having anything resembling an evidenced argument as to why their opinion on the subject should matter.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Hypothesis is not really evidence, it's an educated (GUESS) and in this case it's not even an educated guess.

This in incorrect. The educated guess comes when you make an observation and ponder at the possible reasons as to what caused the event being observed. Then you do your research, see what, if anything, others have written and observed and experimented with, and then you refine your "guess" as you do your research, and then you form your hypothesis so you have something to be tested in order to empirically examine the observation.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Outside of religious conservatism, the issue of equal rights for lgbt people, including to marry the person they love, is mostly settled in developed parts of the world, with some exceptions such as in Asia.

In the U.S. alone, the American Medical Association, American Psychiatric Association, American Psychological Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics, among others, all support marriage equality for lgbt people. So do similar professional bodies in many other developed countries. The relevant professional organizations do not consider gay conversion therapy to be an effective treatment, some going so far as to say that it is very harmful, and it is banned in some areas, because sexual orientation is largely outside of the realm of choice.

The rate of lgbt acceptance and rights worldwide is mostly correlated with education, with the more educated countries mostly being in favor and the least educated countries being mostly against.

The reason gay marriage is compared to interracial marriage is because it's essentially the same: People who have nothing to do with that particular marriage want to come in and block two consenting adults from getting married despite not having anything resembling an evidenced argument as to why their opinion on the subject should matter.

Everything you have just said and all of the facts you have listed are invalid. Because ancient myths.

 

[Bunyip]

Outside of religious conservatism, the issue of equal rights for lgbt people, including to marry the person they love, is mostly settled in developed parts of the world, with some exceptions such as in Asia.

In the U.S. alone, the American Medical Association, American Psychiatric Association, American Psychological Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics, among others, all support marriage equality for lgbt people. So do similar professional bodies in many other developed countries. The relevant professional organizations do not consider gay conversion therapy to be an effective treatment, some going so far as to say that it is very harmful, and it is banned in some areas, because sexual orientation is largely outside of the realm of choice.

The rate of lgbt acceptance and rights worldwide is mostly correlated with education, with the more educated countries mostly being in favor and the least educated countries being mostly against.

The reason gay marriage is compared to interracial marriage is because it's essentially the same: People who have nothing to do with that particular marriage want to come in and block two consenting adults from getting married despite not having anything resembling an evidenced argument as to why their opinion on the subject should matter.

What really offends me is that nobody is even talking about telling Church members what they can or can not do. This is all about Churches telling OTHER people what they can or can not do. In a secular society they have no such right, and if they claim such a right should lose their tax free status.

 

[columbus]

This is all about Churches telling OTHER people what they can or can not do. In a secular society they have no such right, and if they claim such a right should lose their tax free status.

I have considered starting a thread about this.
If churches were given an option between maintaining their right to discrimination and their special tax status, how many would choose ideological purity over the cash?
Tom

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Can't you see why you were perhaps suicidal??? I mean this with all due respect, but it's proven that the majority of self professed LGBT folk are more suicidal than their heterosexual counterparts. Why is this? Maybe it's because A. They were not born that way, it's all a mental illness. B. They know it's not normal.

I'll go with C: Because societal and cultural marginalization sucks and makes human beings really really self-destructive.

I am sorry you went through that, that is terrible and it was not right... but to say it didn't work is sad really... I should know that it CAN work because I too used to profess to be a bisexual until I realized the truth that I was not born that way, and that it was not normal.

I don't want your sympathy. You are correct in that it wasn't right how my journey carried so much self-loathing. But after nearly 20 years of trying to pray the gay away?....that's not a failure on my part. That's a failure on the institution that I trusted itself for setting such an impossible standard for me.

And look, your orientation is your business, not mine. So I'd prefer you and your ilk leave people like me alone to live and love in peace.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What really offends me is that nobody is even talking about telling Church members what they can or can not do. This is all about Churches telling OTHER people what they can or can not do. In a secular society they have no such right, and if they claim such a right should lose their tax free status.

Oh, believe me. They very much indeed do tell each other what to do.

 

[fantome profane]

Homosexuals can CHOOSE what sex they choose to have well sex with...

And so can heterosexuals. And soon everybody will not only be able to choose what gender they have sex with, they will be able to choose what gender they marry.

 

[FollowerOfTheLord]

Your belief that they chose to be gay is nothing more than religiously inspired ignorance. Read more on the scientific consensus regarding this matter if you don't want your beliefs to come across as bigoted, hateful garbage that genuinely affects the lives of millions of people.

I have to choose God in the end.

 

[FollowerOfTheLord]

This in incorrect. The educated guess comes when you make an observation and ponder at the possible reasons as to what caused the event being observed. Then you do your research, see what, if anything, others have written and observed and experimented with, and then you refine your "guess" as you do your research, and then you form your hypothesis so you have something to be tested in order to empirically examine the observation.

Its still a guess

 

[FollowerOfTheLord]

As opposed to your unsupported assertion that it is a choice?
Tom

Backed up by the bible

 

[Debater Slayer]

You can love in peace, but I want your gaybies to leave me alone and stop forcing it on me.

The good old Christian persecution complex. Nobody is forcing anything on you. Telling you to leave your superstitions out of other people's lives is not forcing anything on you; you are just being told not to force your ignorant beliefs on others. That shouldn't be hard for anyone with a shred of decency, although I realize that some religions even lack that.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Backed up by the bible

In other words, an ancient book written by misinformed nomads. As if anyone should give that any weight when it comes to the marriage rights of consenting adults.

Laughable.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I have to choose God in the end.

This is your choice. Those who do not believe as you should not be expected to adhere to your religious dogma.

You can love in peace, but I want your gaybies to leave me alone and stop forcing it on me.

Whose trying to force what on you? It's not like we're trying to make you gay, or even telling you that you have to like us. However, homosexuals do expect to be treated with decency (as does everyone) and to not have to have their lives dictated by a religious view they do not believe in. You don't even have to make friends with gay people if you don't want to.

Its still a guess

You are obviously very ignorant of the scientific method. A hypothesis in not a guess.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

You can love in peace, but I want your gaybies to leave me alone and stop forcing it on me.

Ha. Want to be left alone? With pleasure.

Want to start lobbying government to limit what I do in my bedroom and who I choose to spend my life with and who I create a home with? Prepare to hear my voice loud and clear.

 

[Debater Slayer]

This thread genuinely convinces me that some forms of religion are social cancers. I'm convinced that the world would be better off without religion.

 

[Underhill]

The question I always ask those who believe people choose to be gay is this.

So you could choose to be gay?

The response is always the same...

"umm, well... I... mayb... well, not me... but some people...."

I could no more choose to be gay than I could choose the color of my eyes. It's a silly proposition for anyone who isn't bisexual. So that begs the next question...

 

[FollowerOfTheLord]

Ha. Want to be left alone? With pleasure.

Want to start lobbying government to limit what I do in my bedroom and who I choose to spend my life with and who I create a home with? Prepare to hear my voice loud and clear.

Who said I was lobbying? You assumed that. Just because I disagree with the lifestyle does not mean I'm out lobbying or something.

In the end it works both ways, don't force it on me, don't parade down the streets half naked and we're good.

And don't be angry when we deny you a wedding cake.