Father Heathen
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That statement a coping mechanism of some sort?
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Why Do Men Oppress Women?
- Thread starter Sunstone
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That statement a coping mechanism of some sort?
I agree with Tasha. It's largely because we can. We're larger, stronger and more aggressive. As social hominids we're naturally hierarchical, as is typical with sexually dimorphic species. Dominance struggles are a major psychological motivator. Out health and well-being, historically, has depended on our place in the pecking order.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
But reason, compassion and honor should supersede our inner-neanderthal.
The Neo Nerd
Well-Known Member
Yes but it doesn't
Get a group of people together and you will see them organise themselves into a heirachy.
Get a bunch of blokes together they will talk louder, stand up straighter, their voices will get deeper etc.
Get a bunch of women together the will stand up straighter, push their chests out, touch their jewelry etc.
This is human nature, most of it manifests itself in unconscious behaviours.
-Q
christianxgirl
New Member
Men only oppress women because women allow it. They didn't know any other way of like. Some jerk came along and said, "You know, I don't want my society to be ruled by a woman." So, no, they don't have the ability. In case you haven't noticed, in the USA women are equal. Countries like China are falling apart because they're killing all the girls because they think they have the "right" too. It's a bunch of B.S.
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christianxgirl
New Member
Also, women were created by God to help rule with men, not under men or do the jobs men don't want to do. God created us to be equals. If women were inferior, A. we wouldn't exist because if we were meant to be inferior God wouldn't have created us B. it's only because men are, because women come from men. So, women cannot be inferior or men would be too. Women were created because God needed a smarter being 
The Neo Nerd
Well-Known Member
Yeah it's not great.
I read an article in a psych magazine a while back that china is having a problem with too many university graduates and no where near enough jobs. The parents are grooming them for high level jobs (often forgoing food themselves to feed the child better food so they can learn better) then they graduate and they can't get a job.
So you have a large proportion of overly educated, understimulated young adults who don't understand why society won't cater to their every whim like their parents did.
Its not working out real well.
-Q
The Neo Nerd
Well-Known Member
Women were created because God needed a smarter being
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Frubals for you young lady.
-Q
dawny0826
Mother Heathen
I can't speak for all women. I can only speak for myself. But I question those women who claim they're genuinely trapped in abusive relationships. I'd rather die than be in a loveless, abusive relationship. If the genuine risk of leaving a heartless, abusive man is death - I'd take the risk. To allow a man to destroy me with fear and pain....I refuse to do it. I don't have this great sense of self esteem. I struggle with my self image and have my own problems but I respect myself enough to want better. I'm romantic enough that I know I deserve better in a man (or a woman) in a relationship. I've always believed so.
I have absolutely no use for men (or women) who dare try to break my spirit. I naturally rebel against such people and navigate towards those who are gentle and kind.
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linwood
Well-Known Member
I believe it is because women hold the power over creation itself.
The roots of our patriarchal societies depended upon a male to male lineage.
Men cannot with any certainty know if their offspring are truly theirs so they attempt to control this situation through domination and oppression of the gender that truly holds the power to know and understand.
DallasApple
Depends Upon My Mood..
I think its rooted in that as well.A woman bearing a child its always her child period..How could she have any doubt?A woman can never give birth to another womans child and be fooled into thinking its hers..(Im talking about plain old screwing..not artificial and all that,,,, just humpty dump)...
Love
Dallas
dust1n
Zindīq
A quick look at the pay rates between men and women, especially amongst minorities, ought to confirm this real quick like.
That's not true at all.
What is "equal".
Is it equality of outcome (eg, pay is same for all genders & races)? Or is it about equality of opportunity, even if some groups make
individual choices which result in demographic differences (eg, women in the workforce who took a decade off to raise kids)?
linwood
Well-Known Member
I don`t believe those demographic differences are a result of suspending ones career to raise children.
They exist for all women not just wives and mothers.
dust1n
Zindīq
You will have to ask the person who first claimed women were 'equal'.
My understanding of it would include both of those considerations. What of it?
Something I got bookmarked for reference.
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- The most recent detailed longitudinal study found that in the late 1980s about one-third of the gender pay gap was explained by differences in the skills and experience that women bring to the labor market and about 28 percent was due to differences in industry, occupation, and union status among men and women. Accounting for these differences raised the female/male pay ratio in the late 1980s from about 72 percent to about 88 percent, leaving around 12 percent as an "unexplained" difference.
- Over the last twenty years, increases in womens accumulated labor market experience and their movement into higher-paying occupations have played a major role in increasing womens wages relative to mens. Changes in family status, in industry structure and in unionization also worked to narrow the gender pay gap, while increasing economic benefits from skills and increasing wage inequality would have, by themselves, widened the pay gap. In addition, the decrease in the pay gap that remains "unexplained" after controlling for measured differences between men and women has been a large contributor to the narrowing of the pay gap.
- The evidence is that labor market discrimination against women persists, although it is difficult to determine precisely how much of the difference in female/male pay is due to discrimination and how much is due to differences in choices or preferences between women and men. One indirect and rough measure of the extent of discrimination remaining in the labor market is the "unexplained" difference in pay. Some studies have tried to measure discrimination directly by looking at pay differences among men and women in very similar jobs or by comparing pay to specific measures of productivity. These studies consistently find evidence of ongoing discrimination in the labor market and support the conclusion that women still face differential treatment on the job."
I'd wager that most of it has to do with men being statistically larger and more aggressive. It comes down to exaggeration of some basic biological differences.
A few hundred years ago, and in some of the lesser-developed countries today, hard physical work is required for survival by much of the population, and men are typically more capable of it. So, in many of these societies, men are seen as more important because they perform the obviously necessary tasks.
So in more civilized countries where education is common and more work is done with the brain than the body, women have a higher status. In the US, more women go to college than men. Some of the biological factors are still there, though, as men are typically more aggressive/assertive, and cultural factors still persist to some extent from the old days.
A few hundred years ago, and in some of the lesser-developed countries today, hard physical work is required for survival by much of the population, and men are typically more capable of it. So, in many of these societies, men are seen as more important because they perform the obviously necessary tasks.
So in more civilized countries where education is common and more work is done with the brain than the body, women have a higher status. In the US, more women go to college than men. Some of the biological factors are still there, though, as men are typically more aggressive/assertive, and cultural factors still persist to some extent from the old days.
Several reasons, including hormone-driven predisposition towards aggressivity; a need to react to feelings of insecurity; an instictual desire to scare women so that they become emotionally insecure and dependent on them; and a basic frustration over the classic roles of the male as a provider and of the female as a revered being that should be protected always.
Pay should be performance based period. Folks keep forgetting that women get perks a man would never get. Get on a cruise ship and watch it start to sink, guess who gets into the life boats first.
kai
ragamuffin
Men often oppress everything ,other men ,women,animals, as to why greed ,selfishness, arrogance.
Ah, boys....
Y'all are just weird. Cute, but weird.
I've learned that in spite of males trying to puff up your chests, yelling "unga bunga", and trying to scare us into submission, we have sharp nails and know exactly how and where to grab, twist, and pull.
Classic self-defense - know where your opponents' weaknesses are.