Why do muslims think Bible is corrupted and Islamic texts are well preserved?

[Lars]

Well, you are wrong, and you are answering for someone else.

What did you say? Methodology of dating is "just made up"? Really?

Again, rather than giving just absolutely vague statements, can you specifically speak of the earliest manuscript that I just ask about, and the dating methodology. Just for curiosities sake since you just said "its just made up", lets see if you have any validity in saying something like that.

And please dont speak about languages because we are speaking about a manuscript dating of the NT. Its obviously in Koine Greek, so that's just a useless statement.

Also, address the whole post.

How big is the moon? "Dont look it up"

See, i can ask more questions too instead of answering the subject at hand.

You dont stick to the subject at hand, you just are defensive that your religious culture is brought to question. Just admit that you dont like it. Easy.

edit: Either case, if i was interested in manuscripts. I would make a topic about that. Which if i do in the future then i will do that. So you can take it there by then

 

[firedragon]

But your question makes no sense to begin with. What do you mean by food? You can read cant you?

See, if I cant read, I cant type. So asking a question like that only shows you have no clue of what you are talking about, but are looking for ways to use some ad hominem to get out of taking responsibility for your own queries you raised.

I did not speak of food.

 

[firedragon]

How big is the moon? "Dont look it up"

See, i can ask more questions too instead of answering the subject at hand.

You dont stick to the subject at hand, you just are defensive that your religious culture is brought to question. Just admit that you dont like it. Easy.

See, trying to insult someone just shows you dont know the topic. This is the internet, everyone is used to seeing that kind of thing.

So you dont know what dating is, but you just made up a claim that "dating is just made up".

 

[Lars]

Nope. If you dont know, say you dont know. If you have not read it, just say you have not.



If you dont know, say you dont know. If you have not read up, say you have not read up. pretty simple. You cant expect people to "answer" when you dont know what you are even asking about.

Well i did prove you right. Dominance is part of Sunni Islamic culture. See you are defensive. Which does prove my point. So i appreciate proving me right

 

[Lars]

See, if I cant read, I cant type. So asking a question like that only shows you have no clue of what you are talking about, but are looking for ways to use some ad hominem to get out of taking responsibility for your own queries you raised.

I did not speak of food.

Yeah and i didnt talk about manuscripts. Thanks again for proving your blunder

 

[firedragon]

Well i did prove you right. Dominance is part of Sunni Islamic culture. See you are defensive. Which does prove my point. So i appreciate proving me right

So why do you pretend you have read the Quran when you have not? Anyway, I asked you three questions pertaining to your OP. Can you answer them? I will cut and paste since you didnt answer any of them.

1. What do you mean by your term "Islamic Texts"?
2. What do you think "unlettered" means, where did you get that from, and what are the nuances and what are the contexts this "word" is used?
3. What do you mean "collected by reliable people"? What are you referring to? Who are these reliable people?

 

[firedragon]

Yeah and i didnt talk about manuscripts. Thanks again for proving your blunder

Of course you didnt. I was speaking to someone else. But you just entered in and said "dating is just made up".

NT manuscript dating is not just made up. If you dont know, do a small research on it. Dont make statements like this.

 

[Lars]

So why do you pretend you have read the Quran when you have not? Anyway, I asked you three questions pertaining to your OP. Can you answer them? I will cut and paste since you didnt answer any of them.

1. What do you mean by your term "Islamic Texts"?
2. What do you think "unlettered" means, where did you get that from, and what are the nuances and what are the contexts this "word" is used?
3. What do you mean "collected by reliable people"? What are you referring to? Who are these reliable people?

You havent read it either by the way you cant stick to the subject. What do you mean by how big the moon is? How big is it? without looking it up? can you answer? This is afterall not about a subject is it?. Suuuurely this is relevant right?

 

[Lars]

Of course you didnt. I was speaking to someone else. But you just entered in and said "dating is just made up".

NT manuscript dating is not just made up. If you dont know, do a small research on it. Dont make statements like this.

Again. Thanks for proving that Islamic sunni culture is about dominance. Nothing you say adds up or makes sense. Cant answer a subject. Good for you

edit: But just to answer. hadiths from sunnah.com. The extra contents that adds to the quran. Or quran itself that says people of the book corrupted their scripture. Like i dont think you have read it, the fact that i have to answer such a friggin easy answer to you. Read for goodness sake.

Here. Look it up yourself next time

Surah Ali 'Imran - 75
There are some among the People of the Book who, if entrusted with a stack of gold, will readily return it. Yet there are others who, if entrusted with a single coin, will not repay it unless you constantly demand it. This is because they say, “We are not accountable for ˹exploiting˺ the Gentiles.”1 And ˹so˺ they attribute lies to Allah knowingly.

Surah Ali 'Imran - 78
There are some among them who distort the Book with their tongues to make you think this ˹distortion˺ is from the Book—but it is not what the Book says. They say, “It is from Allah”—but it is not from Allah. And ˹so˺ they attribute lies to Allah knowingly.

 

[firedragon]

You havent read it either by the way you cant stick to the subject. What do you mean by how big the moon is? How big is it? without looking it up? can you answer? This is afterall not about a subject is it?. Suuuurely this is relevant right?

The questions were pertaining to your OP. The moon is not. If you dont know, that's perfectly fine. Look it up.

 

[Lars]

The questions were pertaining to your OP. The moon is not. If you dont know, that's perfectly fine. Look it up.

You always avoid the subject. So its why it was equally relevant is all

 

[firedragon]

Again. Thanks for proving that Islamic sunni culture is about dominance. Nothing you say adds up or makes sense. Cant answer a subject. Good for you

edit: But just to answer. hadiths from sunnah.com. The extra contents that adds to the quran. Or quran itself that says people of the book corrupted their scripture. Like i dont think you have read it, the fact that i have to answer such a friggin easy answer to you. Read for goodness sake.

Here. Look it up yourself next time

Surah Ali 'Imran - 75
There are some among the People of the Book who, if entrusted with a stack of gold, will readily return it. Yet there are others who, if entrusted with a single coin, will not repay it unless you constantly demand it. This is because they say, “We are not accountable for ˹exploiting˺ the Gentiles.”1 And ˹so˺ they attribute lies to Allah knowingly.

Surah Ali 'Imran - 78
There are some among them who distort the Book with their tongues to make you think this ˹distortion˺ is from the Book—but it is not what the Book says. They say, “It is from Allah”—but it is not from Allah. And ˹so˺ they attribute lies to Allah knowingly.

Why cut and paste Quran verses to a question I asked from someone else about the New Testament manuscripts, and you responded saying "dating is made up"? Is not that absurd?

 

[firedragon]

You always avoid the subject. So its why it was equally relevant is all

Alright. Answer one question. At least one of these. One at a time.

1. What do you mean by your term "Islamic Texts"?
2. What do you think "unlettered" means, where did you get that from, and what are the nuances and what are the contexts this "word" is used?
3. What do you mean "collected by reliable people"? What are you referring to? Who are these reliable people?

 

[Lars]

Why cut and paste Quran verses to a question I asked from someone else about the New Testament manuscripts, and you responded saying "dating is made up"? Is not that absurd?

Thats not what i was asking about. How big is the moon?

 

[firedragon]

How big is the moon?

Not relevant.

 

[ChristineM]

Most people don't give a crap about reading books now, so what's your point in singling out religious people? Just trying to bash again?

I think you are confusing people in general and religious people.

I believe otherwise, there are lots of people read books, hence the reason publishers, book shop and Amazon exist. So feel free to take it as an insult if you feel that way

 

[Lars]

Wanna update something. They may not think Quran is well preserved, but that the overall Biblical is deviated. So maybe i should update that as a question. But curious to what you think?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I think you are confusing people in general and religious people.

I believe otherwise, there are lots of people read books, hence the reason publishers, book shop and Amazon exist. So feel free to take it as an insult if you feel that way

Amazon sells everything under the sun, so they're irrelevant here. There's barely any book stores anymore, except Barnes and Noble.

And rates of pleasure reading are dropping: New Evidence on Waning American Reading Habits

 

[ChristineM]

Amazon sells everything under the sun, so they're irrelevant here. There's barely any book stores anymore, except Barnes and Noble.

And rates of pleasure reading are dropping: New Evidence on Waning American Reading Habits

Amazon books sells books.

Perhaps you are talking of an American phenomenon. Indicative of high religiosity.

FYI, america accounts for just 5% of the world population so quoting it as "the standard" doesn't really work.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Amazon books sells books.

Perhaps you are talking of an American phenomenon. Indicative of high religiosity.

FYI, america accounts for just 5% of the world population so quoting it as "the standard" doesn't really work.

Do you really think that Amazon only or mostly just sells books? Have you been on Amazon since the early 2000s?

But, whatever. You just want to believe that religious people are a bunch of uneducated morons and nothing will change your mind about that.