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Why do people become bisexual and homosexual?

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Yes, I'll accept it as scientific evidence that bisexual men really exist. But I already knew that. As a bisexual woman who is active in the LGBT community, I know more than a few of them, and some are friends.
I know that ... I'm saying this is a start to shut the right-wing know nothing know it alls up.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Bi-erasure is a thing. We don't exist, apparently. And the phenomenon happens in both monosexist gay/lesbian and straight communities. We're lesbians until graduation. We're just being curious. We're using bisexuality as a stepping stone before we "really" come out. We are untrustworthy. And yet in spite all of these assumptions, we are still a myth. Funny how that goes, right?

One almost gets the sense that people feel unconfortable talking honestly about sexuality...
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
While there's not biological evidence for bisexuality in men, the newest studies show that homosexual men have something special happen on the X-chromosome.
I must agree that this is vague at best. Nor am I aware of that part about the X-Chromosome. It sure feels counter-intuitive.
 

Maponos

Welcome to the Opera
Scientific Study Finds That Bisexuality Really Exists | TIME.com

"Bisexual men won’t likely be surprised — or feel particularly validated — to learn that a new scientific study confirms that their sexual attraction to both men and women is real. But the findings may help enlighten those who still subscribe to the stereotype that bisexual men are just closeted homosexuals, or simply confused ..."

Follow the link and read the article about the scientific study. Let me know what you think.

The article doesn't really provide much biological data other than people have sex with both genders. This is the study I was referring to about the X-Chromosome
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
While there's not biological evidence for bisexuality in men, the newest studies show that homosexual men have something special happen on the X-chromosome.
You're right. I haven't come across evidence for a biological basis for bisexuality in men. Or women, for that matter. The data on male and female homosexuality is much more comprehensive. Not sure what to make of that.
 

Maponos

Welcome to the Opera
You're right. I haven't come across evidence for a biological basis for bisexuality in men. Or women, for that matter. The data on male and female homosexuality is much more comprehensive. Not sure what to make of that.

I can't really say anything about female sexuality in general because it's quite different than male sexuality, but male sexuality is quite polar from my observations and own life experiences. I even came out as bisexual before (as did many other gay guys I know), but I realised I was just trying to hold onto anything that still tied me to the hetero-majority world.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
I can't really say anything about female sexuality in general because it's quite different than male sexuality, but male sexuality is quite polar from my observations and own life experiences. I even came out as bisexual before (as did many other gay guys I know), but I realised I was just trying to hold onto anything that still tied me to the hetero-majority world.
I understand. I identify as bi, but I'm much more hetero in my attractions and can't really see myself in a serious relationship with a male unless he was really feminine or androgynous. Although I can see masculine men as sexually attractive, the emotional attraction isn't really there.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
There is some evidence to suggest that sexual orientation is fluid and changes overtime but I do not have a firm opinion on it. If you put lots of straight men on a boat and send them out to see for a long time, they'll come back to shore gay because they need to satisfy their desires.
Yeah, it's called being pent up. Lol. Point being, when men are in sex-segregated situations for a long enough period of time, they'll engage in sexual behaviors with other males even though that's not really what they want. Often there's some sort of dominance aspect to it as well, especially with what you usually see in prison. I remember reading an article about homosexuality in the Afghan military on Vice and it had a strong dominance aspect to it since they were reported to doll up one guy like a girl and then gang bang him (apologies for the bluntness). It was a way of relieving sexual tension because premarital sex with a female is a life or death situation there.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
The article doesn't really provide much biological data other than people have sex with both genders. This is the study I was referring to about the X-Chromosome
1. I think that's pretty good proof. All I know is what it is like to be heterosexual, and there is not enough money in this world to make me "change teams" even for a minute. It is not possible for me to "choose", so why should I assume anyone else has that ability.

2. The article you linked to was showing added evidence that homosexuality is genetic. There was not any mention of bisexuality in the article at all, so I think I am missing your point. Can you explain why you referred to that article?
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Yeah, it's called being pent up. Lol. Point being, when men are in sex-segregated situations for a long enough period of time, they'll engage in sexual behaviors with other males even though that's not really what they want. Often there's some sort of dominance aspect to it as well, especially with what you usually see in prison. I remember reading an article about homosexuality in the Afghan military on Vice and it had a strong dominance aspect to it since they were reported to doll up one guy like a girl and then gang bang him (apologies for the bluntness). It was a way of relieving sexual tension because premarital sex with a female is a life or death situation there.
I don't think this is an example of anyone's sexual orientation changing. It is merely an example of men being pushed to their limits, doing what, before, they would have considered unthinkable. I mean, look at how many gay men are married to women ...
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Why is it a life or death situation?
Because of their concept of honor. They could get killed over it.

I don't think this is an example of anyone's sexual orientation changing. It is merely an example of men being pushed to their limits, doing what, before, they would have considered unthinkable. I mean, look at how many gay men are married to women ...
Oh, I wasn't trying to say that they changed their sexual orientation.
 
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