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Why do so many need a god ?.

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I myself don't need a god, I am happy with my own life, but I find it hard to realize that many are not happy unless they have a god in their life, what's the big deal about having a god in our life. So I suppose I am asking those who need a god in their life, to share why they do need this god, I am honestly confused to why we need a god.
They need a god because they cannot accept the possibility of the existence of their own larger identity that eclipses, but precipitates, the world they know. I see it more as a responsibility issue.
 
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LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Ohh,, I'm sure it is.... My God doesn't mince His words. He claims to be the Creator.
You... find that a bonus, I suppose?

There is little to no chance of impressing me personally with such a claim. If anything, that strongly suggests a misguided belief.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Perhaps you'll be impressed at His Appearing. Will have to wait and see.
Perhaps.

Perhaps I will will the Lotto, find out that I am a werewolf, and that I am the rightful heir of some Scandinavian throne as well.

It sounds more likely than my finding out that there is an all-powerful creator who happens to be behind Christianity after all, if you ask me.

More to the point, it sounds more relevant to my priorities and choices.

Why would I care about whether your God is/claims to be the creator even if I believed in his existence? Even if I knew for a fact that he does exist?

It is not like he needs my approval, nor I his.


Maybe you feel differently?
 
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psychoslice

Veteran Member
lol,,, You were taught the truth. If you weren't,,your post would have reflected the reasoning of why the teaching is wrong. Instead, you can only insinuate that you were brain-washed into some kind of wrong thinking. And if you can't see that God's credentials are in His 4th Commandment,,,,that's not my fault.
I feel that you are being arrogant, thinking you know the truth over everyone else, this is what I felt when I was a SDA. They believed they were God's chosen, that they were his remanent, the last piece of truth, they also make an idol out of the Sabbath, not realizing that its much more than a mere day, the true Sabbath is within, a resting in our inner being. No, the SDA are not the truth bearers, no church is, truth is found within each one of us, its our connection to the pure Source that we are all one in, in fact we are the Source, its sad that the Source has been reduced to a concept called god, for this has taken us away from who we truly are, and has made us crawl and begging on our knees to that which we already are.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
I believe the true God created us with a spiritual need or hunger. (Matthew 5:3) That is why all of us give devotion to something: a god or gods, money, pleasure, sports, etc. Of course, such misdirected devotion is greatly harmful, IMO. (1 Corinthians 10:20)
I feel that the Source created us, and because there is nothing but the Source, we naturally feel the pull of the Source, that is while we believe we aren't the Source.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
The need a god because they cannot accept the possibility of the existence of their own larger identity that eclipses, but precipitates, the world they know. I see it more as a responsibility issue.
Could you please elaborate a bit further on what you said about a responsibility issue.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
And quickly if at all possible, @YmirGF . Before I meddle in with my pretense at having understood what you mean, as I so often do.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Could you please elaborate a bit further on what you said about a responsibility issue.
If a being exists outside of yourself, who controls all, then ultimately you are not really responsible. The individual becomes little more than a pawn in a game. If you see reality, as you know it, as emanating from the self, you tend to take more care as everything you encounter is a result (often unexpected) of your own choices. I am pressed for time, but its the artful application of making choices in the realm of unpredictable probability.

As someone much wiser than I once said, "Hope for the best, plan for the worst."

@psychoslice @LuisDantas
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Hmm, not really what I had understood, but interesting.

I would ask @Wirey what that says about my intellect then. But I am not quite that inconsequential.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
If a being exists outside of yourself, who controls all, then ultimately you are not really responsible. The individual becomes little more than a pawn in a game. If you see reality, as you know it, as emanating from the self, you tend to take more care as everything you encounter is a result (often unexpected) of your own choices. I am pressed for time, but its the artful application of making choices in the realm of unpredictable probability.

As someone much wiser than I once said, "Hope for the best, plan for the worst."

@psychoslice @LuisDantas
Thank you, and nicely said.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I am trying to understand your perspective about disbelief. And specifically that line about the possibility of my being discouraged.
 

Thana

Lady
I am trying to understand your perspective about disbelief. And specifically that line about the possibility of my being discouraged.

Well you could just ask, you know ;)

I see disbelief simply as another form of belief.
You can give up something in exchange for something else and so on. That's why I continue to use those words.
 
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