Why do some people leave religiousforums.com?
I love this forum. I will never leave.
But what are the reasons some decide to leave?
The name says
Religious Forums, so a new person might expect most of what is discussed would be connected to religion and the many questions of hope and faith. But there are too many Atheists who think this is a place to undermine religion, and add spiritual confusion, rather than learn something new, based on what that name religion implies.
If you go to a science forum and wanted to discuss religion, you will not be treated with the same tolerance. Although some science forum sites will add an extra area for religion. But if you stray, the site police will force the discussion back to what the name says, or else. Science forums will not allow anti-science positions, day after day, like this religious sites allow anti-religion positions. Some people get tired of the dual standard and the higher tolerance requirement of the religious. I appreciate the tolerance since I am all over the place.
I approach religion from a different way. I try to build a bridge between science and religion. It is not coincidence that the 6000 year time scale of the Bible; creation of the universe, for example, coordinates with the science dated discoveries of the invention of written language and the formation of the first stable civilizations.
These two changes ended human evolution by natural selection; prehuman. These changes added artificial selection to natural selection, to form the modern human. Civilization has manmade needs that are not all natural, while written language allows and causes our memory to linger beyond the time scale of the natural brain to forget and forward integrate.
A new type of human mind appeared, symbolized by Adam, who starts to see reality outside the box of natural instinct and natural selection. Religions are useful since they have the raw data for this early change that occurred all over the world. This allows one to map this out. This is a bridge, so people can cross the divide.
Science needs to understand than natural selection and artificial selection are two different things. Each would lead humans down different paths. Will and choice is connected to artificial selection instead of natural selection. A good modern example is complete Transgender outcome, is made possible by science artificially altering biological reality. This desire for departure from natural selection began about 6000 years ago; artificial selection. The brain still has natural instinct, but that has been repressed in most people. Religions seek to merge with that natural part. Philosophy is more about adaption under the imposed artificial conditions. Both appear to be needed since nature and civilized nurture are both with us.
I have learned from the Atheist in the sense that some of their concerns can be addressed by looking at the Bible and other religious books with fresh eyes; untraditional ways.
For example, one new idea that came to me was connected to the concern about why God would allow suffering? The solution was that God has been sabbath resting since the 6th day. There has been another person in charge; Lord of the Earth, Satan. Satan, like the tree of knowledge of good and evil, also acts both good and evil.
If you read the Bible, the first six days of creation are epic; create the universe, stars, planets, life, etc. This level of creation does not appear again, after Genesis, until Revelations. An entire city descends from heaven and God forms a new heaven and earth. This appear to be when God finishes his rest and starts to work, again. Revelations is when Satan is gradually removed from his role. We appear to still be in the final age of Satan. (Satan is a neural subroutine that can project and network.)