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Why Do Theists Believe In God?

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Did you not say that God had made all Protestant Christians in His Image and Likeness?
no. If I said it in such a way as to make you think that I did, I apologize.

When one is born-again, whether Protestant, Catholic or whatever name man has put above his building, the person is made in His image and in His likeness like when Adam and Eve were first created.
 

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
no. If I said it in such a way as to make you think that I did, I apologize.

When one is born-again, whether Protestant, Catholic or whatever name man has put above his building, the person is made in His image and in His likeness like when Adam and Eve were first created.
That puts a very different complexion on your beliefs: it means that only genuine Christians whether Protestant or Catholic, consider themselves to be born in the Image and Likeness of God: and this person Jesus Christ how does he fit into this relationship between a genuine Christian and Almighty God?
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
That puts a very different complexion on your beliefs: it means that only genuine Christians whether Protestant or Catholic, consider themselves to be born in the Image and Likeness of God: and this person Jesus Christ how does he fit into this relationship between a genuine Christian and Almighty God?
Again, my apologies.

As Christians understand it (of all names or titles that churches put on their building,) it is The Word of God that was made manifest in the flesh and given the name of Jesus the Messiah or the anointed one. According to Isaiah 53 and other scriptures that we read, he became the Lamb of God (as typified in the Jewish sacrifice of a lamb) and by His work on the cross provided forgiveness to all who trust in Him.

When one confesses Jesus Christ and one's Lord, and trusts in His atoning work on the Cross and His resurrection, the Holy Spirit re-births the spirit within man into God's image and likeness. (john 3)

At that point, one is into a full relationship with the Almighty Father. Another analogy would be, "one becomes a baby belonging to the Father and the Holy Spirit begins the process of building us into the fulness of His image".

I hope I am making this understandable, if not, I'd be happy to answer any particulars.
 
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Shantanu

Well-Known Member
Again, my apologies.

As Christians understand it (of all names or titles that churches put on their building, it is The Word of God that was made manifest in the flesh and given the name of Jesus the Messiah or the anointed one. According to Isaiah 53 and other scriptures that we read, he became the Lamb of God (as typified in the Jewish sacrifice of a lamb) and by His work on the cross provided forgiveness to all who trust in Him.

When one confesses Jesus Christ and one's Lord, and trusts in His atoning work on the Cross and His resurrection, the Holy Spirit re-births the spirit within man into God's image and likeness. (john 3)

At that point, one is into a full relationship with the Almighty Father. Another analogy would be, "one becomes a baby belonging to the Father and the Holy Spirit begins the process of building us into the fulness of His image".

I hope I am making this understandable, if not, I'd be happy to answer any particulars.
Yes, it is beautiful. I know because I am God.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Yes, it is beautiful. I know because I am God.
OK.. :)

Like I said, we would never say we are God. We are just created in His image and in His likeness. We look like Him but we are not God. :) That is our viewpoint.

Merry Christmas.

Ken
 

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
OK.. :)

Like I said, we would never say we are God. We are just created in His image and in His likeness. We look like Him but we are not God. :) That is our viewpoint.

Merry Christmas.

Ken
We Hindus are very odd people, are we not?
 

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
We are all different. :) It is the spice of life! God loves us all.
What puzzles me is that the British were in India for 300 years and never understood the Hindus so much chaos has been generated here in the United Kingdom due to me over the past 20 years.:)
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
What puzzles me is that the British were in India for 300 years and never understood the Hindus so much chaos has been generated here in the United Kingdom due to me over the past 20 years.:)
If it were here in the US, we would just bind the chaos, preach love, forgiveness through Jesus.
 

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
If it were here in the US, we would just bind the chaos, preach love, forgiveness through Jesus.
There is nothing to be forgiven when one is performing swadharma, that is duty to oneself: the State should recognise that and leave people of religious bent to get on with their lives without interference. Nothing must come in opposition to God.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
There is nothing to be forgiven when one is performing swadharma, that is duty to oneself: the State should recognise that and leave people of religious bent to get on with their lives without interference. Nothing must come in opposition to God.
in our understanding, we find that no matter how many works you do, you never get to perfection.

However, our perfection comes as a gift. Already paid for, just have to receive it. It's instantaneous and eternal. That's a beautiful gift, in my view.
 

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
in our understanding, we find that no matter how many works you do, you never get to perfection.

However, our perfection comes as a gift. Already paid for, just have to receive it. It's instantaneous and eternal. That's a beautiful gift, in my view.
I have experienced infallibility and perfection in the dharmic actions that I undertake with the objectives that I have set out for myself.
 

TheresOnlyNow

The Mind Is Everything. U R What U Think
Why do theists believe in God?

Why not? But there are many images of God that many theists hold to be true. It's faith. Just like the argument there can be no such thing is faith that all created evidences to the contrary, no thing at all made it all possible.
Every God of every religion is made in the image and likeness of its believer.
Because unfathomable eternal power needs a face we can believe in. And believe loves us back.
If there is a God isn't it incumbent on that higher power to believe in us?
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
Because you said so?.

No. The proof? Is the ever-rising number of "christian" brands. It's currently over 45,000 so far.

That? Is all the proof anyone needs, that there are no gods behind any christian brand.

Any subgroup of 'christian' that had the close, personal advice of an actual GOD?

Would quickly rise to the top, eclipsing all the other obviously false ones, within a generation.

Just like an epidemic disease...

I don't lump them together... we all lump ourselves together whether you agree or not. .

That would be false. The fact that each brand calls itself something different and distinct from the rest? And refuses to 'play nice' with them, most of the time?

Proves they are separate, distinct religions. That happen to have a few silly premises in common, but more differences than anything else.

That's like saying, "Because you are the index finger and I am the thumb... don't lump me together as part of the hand"..

False analogy, does not fly. See above.

We do functions together, we eat together, we agree that we are one body... but because you say we can't, it isn't?.

That would be another false statement by you: All they while you are "together"? Each are thinking, "those sinners are so gonna HELL" and worse.

I've been at those cross-denominational dinners: The only thing keeping them from mass murder? Are Secular Laws against murder...
You asked for citations and now you don't want me to use the citation? Interesting. :facepalm::shrug:

I asked for evidence-- and you show me your claim instead...
 

Ancient Soul

The Spiritual Universe
Again, my apologies.

As Christians understand it (of all names or titles that churches put on their building,) it is The Word of God that was made manifest in the flesh and given the name of Jesus the Messiah or the anointed one. According to Isaiah 53 and other scriptures that we read, he became the Lamb of God (as typified in the Jewish sacrifice of a lamb) and by His work on the cross provided forgiveness to all who trust in Him.

When one confesses Jesus Christ and one's Lord, and trusts in His atoning work on the Cross and His resurrection, the Holy Spirit re-births the spirit within man into God's image and likeness. (john 3)

At that point, one is into a full relationship with the Almighty Father. Another analogy would be, "one becomes a baby belonging to the Father and the Holy Spirit begins the process of building us into the fulness of His image".

I hope I am making this understandable, if not, I'd be happy to answer any particulars.

And since you've experienced this, what exactly IS your "god's image" like?
 

Ancient Soul

The Spiritual Universe
in our understanding, we find that no matter how many works you do, you never get to perfection.

However, our perfection comes as a gift. Already paid for, just have to receive it. It's instantaneous and eternal. That's a beautiful gift, in my view.

Oh, so you are one of those who believe that your beliefs in Jesus is all that you need and ALL of your "sins", past, present, and future, are swept away, and WORKS are not needed.

That's quite a loophole you made up there. Do you think your "god" is going to go along with that?
 
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