Apostle John
“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
I’ve always been calm. It’s not worth thinking on it for minutes. Why don’t anyone of you critical thinking atheists explain it.
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Why do you think it's wrong for someone else to be gay?
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Spoken as if you are a God yourself, but I’m not convinced you are correct.
an anarchist
Your local loco.
It's a joke. Talking to God through prayer is just as nonsensical as talking to go through a hair dryer, from an atheist's point of view. I think it's funny
Apostle John
“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
I have no interest in what he says. Why can’t you, a critical thinking atheist, give any facts on creation or facts in general that he has specifically seduced you enough with for you to make the comment you have instead of just putting a reverse slant on what I have told you.
Yes, you've said that three times already. You're perseverating now. And you ignored the response to that comment, which hasn't changed since it was posted.
That's also already been rebutted. All you could say in response was, "So to summarise you’re going to hell because you have no proof or evidence," so that sub-thread of this debate is over and resolved unless you want to go back to that post and try to falsify it. The last unrebutted, plausible claim prevails in any academic setting with formal rules for resolving differences such as scientific peer review or a courtroom trial.
Christianity is a false religion. As I already explained to you here earlier today, its god has been ruled out empirically. You also failed to comment on that, so unless you do, that issue is also settled. The rule doesn't change. If you don't rebut, you concede. When two critical thinkers are engaged in dialectic, they cooperate using the same evidence and rules of inference to resolve differences. They attempt to falsify one another's arguments until one agrees that the other has a sound conclusion that he happily accepts and counts as learning. Think of a game of ping-pong, where the two players volley by hitting a ball back and forth until one can't return it.
It looks very different when there is only one critical thinker "playing." The volleys are all just a serve and a return that goes past the server untouched, then they end - just like these discussions. You serve up a comment, I rebut it, and you just look at go by.
If there is an afterlife, so will you. If Jesus was a real person, and we are judged in an afterlife, he'll be in the same boat as you and I.
Nothing for you. It's an acquired skill.
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Apostle John
“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
Why was this website called religiousforums instead of something like ‘general life mania’.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
How would you know? You've not read it.
Apostle John
“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
I have had experiences of the supernatural since the God Delusion and accompanying tv documentary/marketing campaign came on the scene all those years ago. I have also since read the synopsis of it on Wikipedia. It makes no sense at all.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I think I've already chimed in but here goes again: For me, personally, I believe that sex outside of marriage is wrong. I believe that FOR ME, being gay would be wrong. Luckily, I don't have such tendencies so it's really a non issue to me. Basically, whatever consenting adults do together is their own business. All I want is for people to treat me respectfully and of course I will treat them respectfully. I work in an industry that is full of gay men, and as long as they treat me considerately, I have no issue with them at all. Oh, and my contractor, who does all the work on my house (the third house she's done by the way) is a lesbian. It doesn't matter to me because she treats me as one professional to another and she's a good friend and good boss, and that's really all I ask for.
I don't want people looking at me and thinking about who I have sex with - it doesn't define who I am, and I don't want it to.
I don't want people looking at me and thinking about who I have sex with - it doesn't define who I am, and I don't want it to.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
You've not read it and clearly don't know. You are speaking falsely about it. I have my criticisms of it, because I have read it, but your complaints aren't even things found in the book.
He may be a bitter atheist, but he is a very credible evolutionary biologist of high reputation. He actually does make a few good points in it, but they way you speak of it one would think Dawkins was overly hyperfocused on just one topic. But obviously your knowledge of the book is very inaccurate amd highly distorted amd biased. Suxh as your belief he claims to disprove your god. That never happens.
He presents claims for why logically it is improbable, and to use his own words why yoir god "almost certainly does not exist."
Apostle John
“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
If you are saying the Wikipedia synopsis of it is inaccurate you should get a sock puppet on to it.
Meme and zeitgeist are terms that don’t cut it for knowledgeable Christians.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Hey, if you're so scared that your beliefs may be wrong that you don't want them challenged, that's your problem. I don't see why it's the fault of Dawkins or any other atheist. You do you, man.
Oh, I make homosexuality look VERY good.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
OK true story time! This was when I was about 12. I had a massive crush on, of all people, Elton John. I mean, he HAD been married before, to a woman, so there was that. I felt like I understood him. What I had no concept of was homosexuality. I remember a good friend of mine saying, "I think he's gay," and I was like "OK, what does that mean?" When she told me I literally could not believe that men might have sex with other men. I mean, it was like a totally alien idea to me. TOTALLY alien! I truly didn't get it.
Why luckily. If you were born gay, as a gay person you would consider it a bad thing?
Don't you have that expectation of everyone you work with, not just homosexuals? Is there an expectation that homosexuals would be less considerate than those of other sexual orientations?
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Because you need to learn how to think and figure it out for yourself. His point was pretty obvious, if you stop and consider it for a moment. But you won't, as you say here. You know, you can consider something without having to actually accept it, right? It's called thinking.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Oh, I think you have a great deal of interest in what he says. How do I know this? Because you keep bringing him up over and over again.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Oh, I think you have a great deal of interest in what he says. How do I know this? Because you keep bringing him up over and over again.
Well, sometimes people love to hate. Go figure.
Apostle John
“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
Christians don’t have to win debates. It‘s impossible on here anyway with sock puppet Steve Fry using every twisted atheist method available. We Christians cannot lie. You make militant atheist homosexuality look exactly like what it is, anything but not good.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
That's convenient.
Oh yeah? Something tells me that's a lie.
So, good, then?