My argument is not about being decent or not, it is about the absurd claim that if you speak out against something you claim to have disdain for, that you must be secretly involved in it. That is what I'm talking about.
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Why do you think it's wrong for someone else to be gay?
- Thread starter Jimmy
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My answer was going to be 'I don't think it's wrong to be gay.'
Apparently, though, my answer doesn't make sense, and I shouldn't answer the question. So consider my lips zipped.
Apostle John
“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
The Bible has reports of rape and slavery. It doesn’t condone these acts. I think these myths have been perpetuated by immoral atheist book writers.
It appears that you don't know what condone means: "accept and allow (behavior that is considered morally wrong or offensive) to continue. The Bible does more than report on these. It advises on them, too:
Those beliefs are perpetuated by people who produce and disseminate Bibles, or who teach from them. That's where the biblical position toward rape and slavery are found. Rape is OK if you marry her, and slavery is OK if the beatings don't lead to death too quickly.
Apostle John
“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
Re Slavery: read Jeremiah 34 about freedom for slaves. You get to see God’s thinking as opposed to man’s. Very distinct things. I don’t think the late Christopher Hitchens read that chapter. Many like minded atheists loved his money spinning reports.
Re Rape: God dealt with Sodom and Gomorrah didn’t He?
Soandso
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Huh. Just curious, but could you explain what it looks like when someone condones something like rape or slavery?
The new testament has several verses that state how slaves need to be obedient to their masters, and masters need to treat their slaves fairly
"In Paul's letters to the Ephesians, Paul motivates early Christian servants to remain loyal and obedient to their masters like they are to Christ. Ephesians 6:5-8 Paul states, “Servants, be obedient to your human masters with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ” which is Paul instructing slaves to obey their master.[99] Similar statements regarding obedient slaves can be found in Colossians 3:22-24, 1 Timothy 6:1-2, and Titus 2:9-10.[100][101][102]"
The Bible and slavery - Wikipedia
The old testament also has rules on owning slaves
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Yes, it does. It literally gives instruction on how to discipline slaves, how to sell your own daughter into slavery, and instructs victims of rape to marry their attack.
A disgusting, vile book.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Can't procreate naturally. . There. :0p
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
Eh, plenty other can. Don’t worry, humans won’t go extinct. Haha.
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
OT. We have a new book now! HahaYes, it does. It literally gives instruction on how to discipline slaves, how to sell your own daughter into slavery, and instructs victims of rape to marry their attack.
A disgusting, vile book.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Well, it was something that made sense in its own cute gay way. Heh.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
So people quote the OT when it comes to forbidding homosexuality, but whenever the inconvenient parts are pointed out, the OT magically no longer applies, but you can't have it both ways.
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
I can though. Everyone knows that Jesus was against homosexuality for himself. He was never seen with a man to our knowledge. He didn’t shun sinners though.
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Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Guy-Am-I was against green eggs and ham.
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
I think he was against it for himself not anyone else
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
Well those people should be more accepting like Jesus.
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
I guess your right I can’t have it both ways. Not that I want it both ways. Personally I’m not against homosexuality.
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
I do believe the New Testament forbids as well idk
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The kind you clean up with a mop and bucket.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Paul said that, but Paul also promoted things that are against Jehovah's commands. Like Jehovah said to be fruitful and multiply, Paul says it's best to be an unmarried virgin like him.