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Why Does An Archangel From Heaven Have to Debate For Years They Exist?

Do you think Zanda is an archangel?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 8.8%
  • No

    Votes: 30 88.2%
  • Not sure? Ask...

    Votes: 1 2.9%

  • Total voters
    34

A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
that one won't work. Godric is not easy to say.

I think what you'll find is that the sound Zan San and Tsan are very common sounds linguistically among ancient languages. It's a very natural form for the mouth, tongue, and breath to arrive at from a physiological perspective.

As an aside: There's only one culture that I know of which will not have any words, deities, angels, or anything with the word Zan, San, or Tsan, in it. Hawaiians. They don't have the S, T, or Z sound in their language. Why? I think it's just practical. Those sounds are hard to hear over the waves...

So basically i think a better example instead of Godric is Sandra. Or Santos. Or Sanjay.

Edit to add: I included all three, (Zan, San and Tsan ) because Wizanda has claimed words with all three spellings and pronounciations and claimed them all as his own. But ignores the subtle spelling and pronunciation differences.
My point was more along the lines of "What is in a name?" And the answer is... nothing. A name means absolutely nothing. The thing itself is what it is regardless its given name. And unfortunately, even this simple wisdom is, in my estimation FAR beyond anything The Bible has to offer. Where a name supposedly does matter, even as there are many multiple languages, even as our vocal cords are primed to only be able to make certain ranges of sound, even as "sound" itself means nothing unless an observer has experience that informs what the sound is. We're talking vibrations of matter in particular configurations of wavelength and amplitude... and we want to call this "mystical." It's ridiculous.
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
Thus someone who is a 'Fake Jew'
Now this I'm definitely putting in my resume:
Name: 13, Harel.
Bio: I was born a Fake Jew 23 years ago, and still faking my way through life.
Occupation: Yeshiva student, veteran, award-winning Fake Jew.
Our family were there as dynamic energy patterns before reality was created; after the Great Tribulation where the Zionist cause Armageddon, the Source resurrects the Enlightened Saints.

Therefore this appeal is mainly for anyone who has no real understanding of what the Tanakh meant, before the Great Day of the Lord.
So you're saying that out of all of the random strands of quantum energy, The Source created one strand that was perfect dynamically? Because he always meant for mankind to fail his moral test (still waiting for my numerical grade, btw) and was always planning on sending you, his loyal archangel, so he made sure you'd be born into the one and only perfect family?
In which case, if your family already has the right dynamic, why don't they believe you? Could there be a flaw in the dynamic? *Shudder*.

Which brings me to my next question: Why did The Source create earth near Hell, which apparently messes up Man's brain so much, that no one can see the truth clearly? Why not create earth a bit farther from hell?
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
"Literally" - Probably not the best word choice, my friend...
If I use 'literally' it is because I know a detailed account, and can show it all as code when given the time.
There's only a few places in the Tanach that "literally" mention Moshiach ( aka "their Messiah" ).
There are far more than expected, as many are badly translated, as the word for 'destroyer' could also be translated as 'anointed'.

An Eloh is a Divine Being, i.e the same as an Avatar or an Archangel, and Elohim implies the Beings from the Divine Council.

We have Yeshua Elohim (Isaiah 52:10), King Zion Elohim (Isaiah 52:7, Psalms 146:10, Psalms 147:12)...

Zechariah 12:8 has David Elohim - Where we can show David was Yeshua, who then becomes Zion; which is then 3 aspects of the Source interacting with mankind through the Messiah.

Do you understand there are loads of places then it says 'our God reigns with us', etc, because the word there is Elohim; yet the Source (El) of reality isn't coming here in human form, Archangels were our Kings on earth in the past.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
Sanananda is the name of the son of Brahma in Hinduism.

I followed the above Wikipedia link (which I actually did before as well in another thread of yours where you posted the same link). Here's an excerpt of the EXACT section you have this link jump to in the article:
The noted Ascended Master Teachings teacher Joshua David Stone (whose organization, the I AM University, was originally headquartered near San Luis Obispo, California), began holding his Wesak Mount Shasta gatherings in 1996. Stone had begun teaching in 1993, based on the early 1980s revelations of Tuella, that the Master Jesus, under his galactic name "Sananda" (the name, Stone stated, he adopted after his resurrection), works with Commander Ashtar, flying with Pallas Athena in their own flying saucer within the Ashtar Galactic Command flying saucer fleet as its Commander-in-Chief.[37]
So, some guy establishes the "I AM University" in the nineties, and uses spiritual information revealed in the eighties to determine that "Sananda" is the name of the coming "Master Jesus." He's coming from outer-space, correct? And works with a "Commander Ashtar" and "Pallas Athena" flying in "their own" flying saucer. Does that about sum things up? And your argument is that all the people involved in these endeavors and "revelations" were all correct and of sound mind? Is that it? What the hell man? I give up. I really do. If I see the landing of Jesus' (oh... sorry... "Sananda's") UFO on Earth in my lifetime, I'll eat whatever pair of shoes I am wearing at the time. And this coming from a guy who really doesn't like the taste of shoe.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
So you're saying that out of all of the random strands of quantum energy, The Source created one strand that was perfect dynamically?
Who said I'm perfect; only the Source is perfect (Matthew 19:16-17).

Those who belong here are the music within the symphony from the Source (Lamb's/Zion's Book of Life); some of the corruption is the strands which play out of key.
Because he always meant for mankind to fail his moral test (still waiting for my numerical grade, btw) and was always planning on sending you, his loyal archangel, so he made sure you'd be born into the one and only perfect family?
My family is awful, which has educated me to seek God in all aspects, as I've needed a Rock, and found it in questioning everything.

The test isn't finished, we are still in session - until the bell chimes.

The Technicoloured Dreamcoat isn't to offend people; yet to share insight on free wisdom already found within the texts.
In which case, if your family already has the right dynamic, why don't they believe you? Could there be a flaw in the dynamic?
We're down near Hell, where people are evil down here, and don't see it in many ways .

The dynamics state:

Luke 17:25-26 But first, he must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation. (26) As it was in the days of Noah, even so will it be also in the days of the Son of Man.
Why did The Source create earth near Hell, which apparently messes up Man's brain so much, that no one can see the truth clearly? Why not create earth a bit farther from hell?
It wasn't created like it, it was lowered a bit nearer to Hell: in Zechariah 5 we are in a time of wickedness, where a scroll goes out into the land, to catchout all of the hypocrites under the Curse; who reject the things of God, whilst claiming they follow it.

In my opinion.
:innocent:
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
Who said I'm perfect
Not you- your family, and figuratively-speaking, compared to all other quantum strands.
My family is awful
Aha! So this is why you won't do any miracles to prove to them the truth of The Source. You don't like your family, and will passively exact revenge upon them by making sure they won't be saved.
Why would The Source put you in an unkind family?
it was lowered a bit nearer to Hell
And this happened how exactly? Did the lunar angels accidently drop the moon on it during Creation?
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
There is 15 years of on here and my forum.
I'd appreciate an organized version, which I'm sure you have stored somewhere, because random posts are too confusing. If your Jesussianic disciples could do it after you died as Jesus, I'm sure you could do it as well.
My family is cool.
You just wrote that your family is awful. Make up your mind, pal.
We're inside a quantum computer.
This has nothing to do with my question.
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
If I use 'literally' it is because I know a detailed account, and can show it all as code when given the time.

There are far more than expected, as many are badly translated, as the word for 'destroyer' could also be translated as 'anointed'.

An Eloh is a Divine Being, i.e the same as an Avatar or an Archangel, and Elohim implies the Beings from the Divine Council.

We have Yeshua Elohim (Isaiah 52:10), King Zion Elohim (Isaiah 52:7, Psalms 146:10, Psalms 147:12)...

Zechariah 12:8 has David Elohim - Where we can show David was Yeshua, who then becomes Zion; which is then 3 aspects of the Source interacting with mankind through the Messiah.

Do you understand there are loads of places then it says 'our God reigns with us', etc, because the word there is Elohim; yet the Source (El) of reality isn't coming here in human form, Archangels were our Kings on earth in the past.

In my opinion. :innocent:
I actually totally get it now, Zanda. I'm being completely serious. Someone sent me a PM and they explained the whole thing. It actually all makes sense now. You're mum's right. It's just a little far fetched.

"There are far more than expected, as many are badly translated, as the word for 'destroyer' could also be translated as 'anointed'."

This ^^ is far fetched. Try to think of it from my perspective. You just went from savior -------------------------------------> to destroyer.

That's far fetched.

It's the same with all the "maths". I totally get it. I see the connection. The piece I was missing was that Yeshua is Greek and YehoShua is Aramaic. That's it. Everything so far that you've offered to me as proof depends on this "far fetched" link.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Muhahaha, those evil fake Jews and their confusing posts...
Isaiah 29:20-21 For the ruthless is brought to nothing, and the scoffer ceases, and all that watch for iniquity are cut off: (21) who cause a person to be indicted by a word, and lay a snare for the arbiter in the gate, and who deprive the innocent of justice with false testimony.

Maybe you all don't realize the Sanhedrin/Pharisees made up John, Paul, and Simon the stone on purpose.

Maybe you don't realize the Quran was meant to point the Children of Israel back to the father, and has been corrupted to be the same as Rabbinic Judaism.

Whilst Rabbinic Jews go opposite to wisdom on purpose, they make everyone even more confused, and as saying Armageddon triggers the Great Tribulation, then Judgement Day.

It is like the smartest children saying come on, lets go jump off this cliff, and because they are influential, everyone agrees it is a logical idea.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 
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