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Why Does An Archangel From Heaven Have to Debate For Years They Exist?

Do you think Zanda is an archangel?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 8.8%
  • No

    Votes: 30 88.2%
  • Not sure? Ask...

    Votes: 1 2.9%

  • Total voters
    34

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
I like it!
Like a lousy politician: well don't forget to change your vote - to vote for your friendly Archangel... Every vote leads us closer to global victory, only 7.7 billion to go! :p

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
No, I've worked at one, had my brother in few, and my mum ran one.
Can I ask a question?

Why don't you trust your mum's opinion? If she think's all this is a little unhealthy... mentally... why don't you believe her? She would know. Being in the field. And she wouldn't have any motive to misguide you, right?
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
Like a lousy politician: well don't forget to change your vote
I just want to say, for the record, that you have a very complicated belief system, so I reserve the right flip-flop a little. a Little.

Feel free to call me out if I start doing back-flips?
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Can I ask a question?
No you can't ask.


Well that was a silly question online, sort of works for the dramatic pause in person...





Maybe add more space, and dots next time for affect.
Why don't you trust your mum's opinion?
Because she isn't being logical, and is refusing to look at the data; because she rejects some of the whole thing at a root level, as she really doesn't like some of the Bible's religiousness.
And she wouldn't have any motive to misguide you, right?
No person can walk in another's shoes, until they've walked in them for a day; most people are crazy, and assume to much of another's travels.

She read the article explaining my life, and said, "it sounds a bit far fetched", that isn't being logical, I'd be like "wow", and, "who", "how", "why", and "what"?
why don't you believe her?
Because I've got first hand experience since birth, then religious texts globally, and confirmation of advanced topics, a NDE, fulfilment of prophecy before reading it, name references globally, etc; someone would have to be insane to reject all of this, are you kidding?

Does it sound logical for an archangel (immortal) to take on board a mortals opinion of them being only mortal, because they don't really like studying religions?

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
No you can't ask.


Well that was a silly question online, sort of works for the dramatic pause in person...





Maybe add more space, and dots next time for affect.
Noted. :)

Because she isn't being logical, and is refusing to look at the data; because she rejects some of the whole thing at a root level, as she really doesn't like some of the Bible's religiousness.
A fair assessment.

No person can walk in another's shoes, until they've walked in them for a day; most people are crazy, and assume to much of another's travels.
agreed.

She read the article explaining my life, and said, "it sounds a bit far fetched", that isn't being logical, I'd be like "wow", and, "who", "how", "why", and "what"?
That is awesome, she sounds really nice.

Because I've got first hand experience since birth, then religious texts globally, and confirmation of advanced topics, a NDE, fulfilment of prophecy before reading it, name references globally, etc; someone would have to be insane to reject all of this, are you kidding?
Well. I'm not kidding. I'm trying to make a point.

Does it sound logical for an archangel (immortal) to take on board a mortals opinion of them being only mortal, because they don't really like studying religions?
No. You're right it doesn't.

Here's my point: I agree with your mum. And if she's OK with it. Then so am I. Also, try to understand my point of view as a non-believer. It's no different than your mum, I think it's a little far fetched. But I love the story, and I love the biblical commentary when it is in my wheelhouse, so to speak.
 
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wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Also, try to understand my point of view as a non-believer.
Help me understand it; what do I need to get this chain of narration across at a better level...

What would it need to convince you logistically; not whimsical miracles, etc, like based in the texts?

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
Help me understand it, what do I need to get this chain of narration across at a better level...

What would it need to convince you logistically, not whimsical miracles, etc, like based in the texts?

In my opinion. :innocent:
Time, brother. I need a lot more time. And nothing is going to change that. OK?
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
What would it need to convince you logistically; not whimsical miracles, etc, like based in the texts?

Tell you what. If I wake up tomorrow with below shoulder length hair, thin, and with legs for days... I'll not only become a believer, I'll tell dybmh to become one too.
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
Because we're in a random quantum strand reality, which has then been formulated; certain strands still prefer random to order.
Seriously?! You just made a lot of atheists really happy. You're saying God hasn't already rebooted reality because He didn't make us. We were created at random.
If that's the case, who says god even exists?
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
Because she isn't being logical, and is refusing to look at the data;
Try looking at it this way: If a person came up to you holding a creature that looks exactly like a cat and told you it's not really a cat but a giant fire-breathing dragon, would you believe that person? Probably not. It's human nature to be skeptical of everything that isn't in front of our eyes. Now, from everything you've written on this thread, I understand that other than walking around saying you're an archangel, you haven't actually done anything to prove that you are one. Which explains why most people, including your mom, are skeptical of your claims. I suggest you do a miracle, might convince people.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
We were created at random.
If that's the case, who says god even exists?
We are not created random, the reality is made of random quantum strands, and the universe is a systematic matrix made by the CPU in a quantum soup.
I suggest you do a miracle, might convince people.
The Marvellous Work/miracle (Isaiah 29:9-14) was the Bible, yet Rabbinic Jews, Muhammadans, Baha'i, and Christians reject it.

Convincing my mum won't change that Zionist are unwilling to study they could be wrong, and are going to deliberately cause WW3 soon destroying the human race.

What we need is one Zionist who cares about humanity to question the texts, and then that would be a miracle on a global scale - this is a last appeal to humanity from the Divine.

In my opinion.
:innocent:
 
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Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
What we need is one Zionist who cares about humanity to question the texts
I hope you realize that Zionism, at its base, cares not at all about the world but about the well-being of the "fake" Jewish nation. Zion is a name of the Land of Israel.
Caring about the world is the next step (which Israel isn't actually that bad at).

I suggest you find a different word with more relevance to your cause.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Should I call you out on not wanting to do everything angelically possible to save your mom?
Me and my mum have spoken about it in detail; she has the info she chooses to not look it up... She says she will; yet knowing my mum she will cram revise, once the End is almost here.
Part of reality was created at random, meaning god had no intention of it being there.
Oh my word, trying to teach mortals quantum physics...

Without structuring there is no reason for quantums to be in a matrix, the Source creates this environment with atoms, etc so we can exist, without it we're just soup.
Caring about the world is the next step (which Israel isn't actually that bad at).
Let's see if they prove it, the fate of the human race sits in their hands, will they study?

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
Me and my mum have spoken about it in detail; she has the info she chooses to not look it up... She says she will; yet knowing my mum she will cram revise, once the End is almost here
Clearly merely speaking about it doesn't work. Prove yourself! Perform a miracle for your mum! You seem to be avoiding this.
Oh my word, trying to teach mortals quantum physics...

Without structuring there is no reason for quantums to be in a matrix, the Source creates this environment with atoms, etc so we can exist, without it we're just soup.
Say what you like, but you used the word 'random' which means 'without intent'.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
The proof is in all the world's religious texts, because people don't study, people will most likely wait for the Great Tribulation to happen first, before questioning.

In my opinion. :innocent:

I'm sure the existence of so many different religious beliefs - many pointing to a single divine nature, but not all - and of any texts (but not necessarily all being in agreement) is proof enough for many, and where the vast number of humans tend to believe such. For many of us, the opposite appears apparent, especially where religious beliefs appear to be so localised in origin, often cause so much conflict (and mostly have done so since their creation), tend to rely so much on interpretation of texts, and almost inevitably have splits to form new pathways - Islam being a perfect example.

If I have to study religious texts in order to understand, I could well be spending my whole life doing so - and which one to choose, since of course, being fair-minded, I would need to study them all. Not going to happen, especially when my probability detector tells me that all is just wordiness with no proof available - not for me at least.

I try to question all things, and try not to cling to anything. I suspect those of us without religious beliefs just manage slightly better than others all too often - especially with doubt, uncertainty, and what we can or do know about existence.

PS I would tend to feel a little awkward if I just accepted the religion I might be brought up with or that which appealed - but that's just me. :rolleyes:
 
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