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Why does Donald Trump hold such power over the Republican Party?

Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
I’m not a fan of Biden,I don’t think he can be forgiven for the withdrawal from afghanistan,if he or the others you mention are guilty of a crime the evidence should be presented but so far none has.

Do you not recall the actual withdrawal agreement and timeline? It started under Donald Trump in early 2020, well before Biden was elected. Trump made an agreement with the Taliban that did not include the Afghan government in the negotiations. A ceasefire was implemented and many Taliban prisoners released. Troop reduction from 13,000 to 8,600 by July 2020. The final withdrawal agreed to between the US and the Taliban was to take place in May 2021--after the next presidential term was to start. However, beyond just troop drawdowns, Trump made no further plans to meet his own self-imposed deadline. Biden entered office with no troop withdrawal plan and a deadline of May 1 to leave. The withdrawal was then irreversible and dependent on Taliban cooperation. Biden was able to get an extension of the deadline to August 2021, but he still had to scramble. It was understandably messy, but he was stuck with what the previous administration left him with.

Not being an American voter, you don't have to forgive him for all of the stumbles and glitches, but I doubt any other president could have done a better job of it, given the irreversibility of the withdrawal in January 2021, when he took office. I am glad that he managed to pull off what he was able to, and I certainly don't blame him for the mess more than I blame Trump. Had he managed to stay in office, I think Trump would have made the panicked exit from Vietnam look like a picnic.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Do you not recall the actual withdrawal agreement and timeline? It started under Donald Trump in early 2020, well before Biden was elected. Trump made an agreement with the Taliban that did not include the Afghan government in the negotiations. A ceasefire was implemented and many Taliban prisoners released. Troop reduction from 13,000 to 8,600 by July 2020. The final withdrawal agreed to between the US and the Taliban was to take place in May 2021--after the next presidential term was to start. However, beyond just troop drawdowns, Trump made no further plans to meet his own self-imposed deadline. Biden entered office with no troop withdrawal plan and a deadline of May 1 to leave. The withdrawal was then irreversible and dependent on Taliban cooperation. Biden was able to get an extension of the deadline to August 2021, but he still had to scramble. It was understandably messy, but he was stuck with what the previous administration left him with.

Not being an American voter, you don't have to forgive him for all of the stumbles and glitches, but I doubt any other president could have done a better job of it, given the irreversibility of the withdrawal in January 2021, when he took office. I am glad that he managed to pull off what he was able to, and I certainly don't blame him for the mess more than I blame Trump. Had he managed to stay in office, I think Trump would have made the panicked exit from Vietnam look like a picnic.

Ok fair enough but it was messy and although I’m the other side of the pond it didn’t look good for any of us,Trump is a nightmarish scenario in any decision making imo.
 

Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
The King has no executive powers.

The executive here, the Prime Minister, was Mr Boris Johnson, during the covid 19 outbreak.

His advice came from UK scientific and medical institutions.

What you need to understand is that, ever since we had our revolution and separation from the mother country, Americans have longed to have a monarchy back. Not your watered down version. The real thing. You can see it there in those Disneyland parks. Who needs scientists, when magicians are so much more fun? And magicians can work miracles, where scientists just plod along and stick people with needles. We're happy that Charles and Meghan have come to live amongst us, because they can sometimes be viewed as adopted royalty. Donald Trump does fulfill the need at least a little bit. He has princes and princesses among his offspring, and, like true monarchs everywhere, he thinks he has a divine right to rule. They act as if they are above the law, but, in truth, monarchs are the law. That's how they're supposed to act. Why is Donald Trump so popular? Do you have to wonder?*

*I know. I've been warned before about Poe's Law, but I couldn't help myself.
 

Little Dragon

Well-Known Member
What you need to understand is that, ever since we had our revolution and separation from the mother country, Americans have longed to have a monarchy back
That is hard to fathom. Since a monarch is practically the antithesis of the US constitution!
I've been an anti royalist and republican all my adult life. I think even our constitutional monarchy, as watered down as it is, is still unacceptable, to me. No royalty, no kings or queens, no aristocrats, no lord and ladies, no Crown...all go bye byes in my dream utopia.
It's strange how I envy your nation's democratic republic whilst some Americans want what we had about 200+ years or so ago, before the English revolution and Oliver Cromwell etc..
I wouldn't want absolute monarchs back, no way, I'd take up arms to prevent that occurring here.
 

Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
That is hard to fathom. Since a monarch is practically the antithesis of the US constitution!
I've been an anti royalist and republican all my adult life. I think even our constitutional monarchy, as watered down as it is, is still unacceptable, to me. No royalty, no kings or queens, no aristocrats, no lord and ladies, no Crown...all go bye byes in my dream utopia.
It's strange how I envy your nation's democratic republic whilst some Americans want what we had about 200+ years or so ago, before the English revolution and Oliver Cromwell etc..
I wouldn't want absolute monarchs back, no way, I'd take up arms to prevent that occurring here.

Generally speaking, we are herd animals, so we instinctively organize ourselves into loyalty hierarchies. It's easy to understand authoritarianism in that light. Monarchs and dictators are the top dogs. Democracies tend to weaken top dogs and spread power further down the food chain, but there is still a loyalty hierarchy in place, even in democracies. In the US, we swear allegiance to the Constitution and say that nobody is above the law. In practice, it has seldom worked as we have imagined it ought to. When it does work, we are always surprised at ourselves.
 
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